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    #31
    Originally posted by Theodor View Post
    But wasn't that the trigger, which made a limited conflict into a World War and a massacre of highest grade? After all, it could be just another of the many wars between Germany and France, short and easy so to say. But Britain just had to send its forces in Europe and make a hell out of the war, making a short conflict last 5 bloody years! For sure not to save France because of France itself, but rather fear of a stronger Germany and an attempt to protect the Empire, sucking blood from all around the globe. But the civilization develops in such a way, that the world empire was doomed already and the that war actually helped it collapse, rather than strengthen. Or the false US neutrality, hostile from the beginning against Germany /without the US help and funds both France and Britain would face hard times/ but at the end playing attacked innocent and openly attacking the Central powers. Just IMO, feel free to disagree
    Limited Confict and England caused an extended war, brought in all it's colonies and former colonies making limited conflict a global one. Watch out your drawing rational conclusions and will be called a conspiracy theorist next.

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      #32
      You cant even get the name of the country right let alone anything else
      Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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        #33
        Originally posted by prussian.guard View Post
        Britain owed the US $4.4bn of World War I debt (about £866m at 1934 exchange rates).

        Britain is the only country to pay off the debt from ww2

        This is incorrect. Britain paid back the money it borrowed from the US AFTER the war to rebuild. They never touched the loans we gave during the war, and still owe for WW1 as well.
        Wouldn't it be nice if they paid up. Then we wouldn't have to borrow quite so much from China.
        Steve

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          #34
          Archived from 2002 during Parlimentary questions.

          The deadline referenced within for 2006 was indeed met

          http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2002-02-28.38424.h

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            #35
            Originally posted by Simon Orchard View Post
            You cant even get the name of the country right let alone anything else
            Who me? Why because I call it "England"? That is what the Germans called Britan back in the day.

            I did typo Conflict however but as you know there is no longer an edit option on WAF to fix such things after 10 mintues. The time frame for editing should be extended to 24 hours.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Patrick Dempsey View Post
              Archived from 2002 during Parlimentary questions.

              The deadline referenced within for 2006 was indeed met

              http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2002-02-28.38424.h
              Yes, true but all this is an accounting distortion. If I recall correctly, the British only paid for what they wanted to "keep" at the end of the war under Lend-lease... and they only paid 10 cents on the dollar for those items. The rest was written off. Again, only what they wanted to keep at the "end" of the war, not what was already consumed during the war. Critical point.

              "Large quantities of goods were in Britain or in transit when Washington suddenly and unexpectedly terminated Lend-Lease on 2 September 1945. Britain needed to retain some of this equipment in the immediate post war period. As a result the Anglo-American loan came about. Lend-lease items retained were sold to Britain at the knockdown price of about 10 cents on the dollar giving an initial value of £1,075 million. Payment was to be stretched out over 50 years at 2% interest.[9] The final payment of $83.3 million (£42.5 million), due on 31 December 2006 (repayment having been deferred on several occasions), was made on 29 December 2006 (the last working day of the year). After this final payment Britain's Economic Secretary, Ed Balls, formally thanked the U.S. for its wartime support."

              There are also some "Reverse" Lend-Lease accounting that went on to justify lowering money due to the US... like the US using a British base to operate from... now how silly is that?

              It cost the US in today's dollars about $3.44 trillion dollars to wage war in WW2. And we have not received anything even close to that as repayments.

              Off on a tangent here but what also kill me is that the GI's after coming home from the war still had to indirectly continue to sacriface themselves for the Europeans... this time monetarily... through working long hours and paying taxes that went to paying for the war/ and helping Europe rebuild... "gifts", now that is an additional kick in the face if you ask me.

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                #37
                whilst I understand the debt question you have to remember millions of people lost lives during the conflict and cities destroyed.money was far from anybody's mind at the time.i do believe the Americans had bases not just during but a long time after the war as part payment towards these debts.and again now american and british soldiers are dying side by side but im sure there is no mention of anybody owing anyone money.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by prussian.guard View Post
                  whilst I understand the debt question you have to remember millions of people lost lives during the conflict and cities destroyed.money was far from anybody's mind at the time.i do believe the Americans had bases not just during but a long time after the war as part payment towards these debts.and again now american and british soldiers are dying side by side but im sure there is no mention of anybody owing anyone money.
                  You are most correct... I personally like the British... they are our best Allies, as we are to them. Britain is like our "little" brother

                  ... with that comment, I shall now await the wrath of our UK mates

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                    #39
                    I know now days when the U.S. Government writes off a debt that is owned to the banks the banks get paid but the debt is then put onto the American tax payer's back's. Was this the case when Lend lease money was written off?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Killerbee View Post
                      You are most correct... I personally like the British... they are our best Allies, as we are to them. Britain is like our "little" brother

                      ... with that comment, I shall now await the wrath of our UK mates
                      indeed we are your little brother we use to be your daddy.but now china is fast becoming a dominant force in our world and he to will soon be our daddy.really funny how superpowers change every now and then.
                      all i can say is im glad we have America as our Allies we are very much alike

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by prussian.guard View Post
                        indeed we are your little brother we use to be your daddy.but now china is fast becoming a dominant force in our world and he to will soon be our daddy.really funny how superpowers change every now and then.
                        all i can say is im glad we have America as our Allies we are very much alike
                        So true...

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Patrick Dempsey View Post
                          Archived from 2002 during Parlimentary questions.

                          The deadline referenced within for 2006 was indeed met

                          http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2002-02-28.38424.h
                          Looks like spin to me. Try this:
                          http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4757181.stm

                          Steve

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                            #43
                            My father in law USAAF was stationed in Britain during the war and got his reparations in the form of a 16 year old bride. "God bless them both".

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