Mountain boots at estand

[Gran Sasso]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...10#post7931410

These are not Wehrmacht mountaintroopers boots.

[Mike TM]

Of course not a standart GJ war period boots.

Regards
Mike

[IanC]

Thanks for the heads up - they have been marked as sold - hope the buyer sees this soon.

[Gran Sasso]

Thanks for the heads up - they have been marked as sold - hope the buyer sees this soon.

Its kind of "interesting" that the seller tried in vain to sell those before at a german forum, although he was informed there too, that they are not Wehrmacht...

[jacquesf]

Has the seller been notified? I placed a notice on his profile messenger.

[Jan B]

Its kind of "interesting" that the seller tried in vain to sell those before at a german forum, although he was informed there too, that they are not Wehrmacht...

So definatly not bona fide seller - should be banned right away, no mercy on these guys...

Regards,

Jan B.

[Gebirgsjgr]

Mountain boots at stand – issues?

I’ve read your comments, but I’m still a little confused. My initial impression of these boots was that they were produced for use by the Germany Military as mountain boots, though they were used as ski-boots. The conversion to ski-boots does not look like the normal WWII period work that I’ve seen, but the boot itself looks good.

The points that I like (in favor of Wehrmacht Bergschuhe) are: 1) wool ankle collar, 2) lacing holes (grommets) and hooks, 3) extra leather sewn around front and side welt, and 4) the overall shape.

The points that I do like are: 1) the hardware used for the ski-binding, toe-tap, and hob nails, and 2) the tongue is only one-piece (as opposed to a seam up the middle).

Having the boot pull straps in the back is also a good point, if the boot has lacing hooks. Having the top row of grommets instead of hooks as also a good point.

I have encountered many Bergschuhe without side cleats and sole nails, and only have the ski-binding hardware (or no hardware at all).

So, please let me know what you are seeing or not seeing that points to these boots not being Wehrmacht. And – if they are not, then what are they. Are they simply civilian? Are they from some another country? Are they manufactured in recent times, and made to look similar to WWII version?

Again – I’m not arguing that the hardware is standard Wehrmacht issue. I’m not convinced that the Wehrmacht issued ski boots like these, rather they were purchased or customized by the individual. I also believe that many war-time items were reused after the war by converting them to be more appropriate.

I am not arguing for or against the seller. I am unfamiliar with them.

I welcome your constructive comments.

-Matt

[Gran Sasso]

The points that I like (in favor of Wehrmacht Bergschuhe) are:
...
The points that I do like are:

[kass]

They are handmade, not factory made boots. And IMO would fit to the pre or WWII period as a private purchase.

[Gebirgsjgr]

The second set of points should have read, "..that I do NOT like..." (Sorry about that.)

Are there any other opinions in support of kass, that these are pre or WWII private purchase?

-Matt

[me6_130]

They don't look hand made to me...And seller doesn't state they are Wehrmacht either...There is the trick, he only says:

"hi

i will sell this nice pair of mountain boots

price 270€ inclusive shipping"


Carles

[Gran Sasso]

They don't look hand made to me...And seller doesn't state they are Wehrmacht either...There is the trick, he only says:

"hi

i will sell this nice pair of mountain boots

price 270€ inclusive shipping"


Carles

With that description he should have listed them in the bazaar- or fleamarket section

[kass]

They don't look hand made to me...
Carles

Hi.
I see now numbers on a lining but when looking at the stitching on the "Norwegian" welt and pegging on the waist then they look like handmade to me. Unevenly put pegs and some peg endings are wider than the others, that only happens when you hit the peg inside the sole with a hammer. The hole has not been deep enough to the peg to penetrate and the end bit will break and smash. And in the end if you do not rasp the result it will leave like that. At least from these pictures it looks like that.
Pre WWII era you could buy ready made uppers in the store and have the footwear made then to the measure plus there were plenty of small makers that had quite lot handmade process still in their way of making. I had 1940 dated (with factory maker stamp and lot numbers) boots for the Red Army where soles was fully handmade (pegged as well).

Just my opinion though.

Regards
K.

[me6_130]

With that description he should have listed them in the bazaar- or fleamarket section

I agree

Carles

[4th division]

With that description he should have listed them in the bazaar- or fleamarket section

I feel that the Relic helmets should have a different "table" too.