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    E-stand Y traps opinions

    Hi All
    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=727798
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    #2
    Y straps themselves look ok (although 0007 RB number always is suspicious, but it does exist!!)
    but I do agree, pictures are a bit "shiney".....

    I would like to see more pics of the backstrap !

    Tom
    www.mp44.nl
    Last edited by MP44_tom; 03-17-2014, 01:42 AM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by MP44_tom View Post
      Y straps themselves look ok (although 0007 RB number always is suspicious, but it does exist!!)
      but I do agree, pictures are a bit "shiney".....

      I would like to see more pics of the backstrap !

      Tom
      www.mp44.nl
      These are exactly the same straps as I own, and where doomed "fake" here on the forum. Yes, a little different in style, but exactly the same material and cut.

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        #4
        They have exacly the same fake RB Nr ( 0/0378/0007) as many faked items but not everything which has 0007 at the end in RB Nr is fake ; for example I have stone mint winter boots with double markings - with full name of maker and RB Nr at the same time - with RB Nr ending 0007, but the rest of RB Nr is completly diffrent ( mine is 1/1255/007 - maker POLICKY RIEKER ), which are 1000% original boots.
        So not everything with RB Nr ending 0007 is fake . Also well known and mostly faked RB Nr (0/0378/0007) is most probably real one, from wartime existing company.

        Those Y-straps in link looks ok to me.

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          #5
          Originally posted by 4th division View Post
          These are exactly the same straps as I own, and where doomed "fake" here on the forum. Yes, a little different in style, but exactly the same material and cut.
          Yes, you are right, they are both made in leather, as both original and fakes are. If you take another look you will find many difference with these and your pair (exept the markings) , im not saying this pair is good....

          The pics are also very shiny....

          Siton, Ask the seller for better pictures, especially on that funny looking backstrap.

          Daniel.
          Last edited by Daniel.S; 03-17-2014, 07:31 AM.

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            #6
            Imho the backstrap and the support hooks are different. The rest are the same. Down to the shape of the holes for the main support hooks, the sloppy sewing on the auxiliary straps and the stitching on the D-rings on top. imho it is the same thing. I would love to know the other details wich are not mentioned by me above that make these good and mine bad.

            Thanks.

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              #7
              Ah, I'm sorry

              These were dealt with before in another thread: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=720869&page=2

              Well, I still have my doubts about them.... sorry to say

              But then again it's just my opinion, for what it's worth.........

              So for the record, I'm not saying they are fakes, but I really would like to have them in hands..... If they are real, they are indeed the most minty example I've ever seen !

              Tom
              www.mp44.nl

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                #8
                ...actually it was the wire Endstück that I kinda like in the first place,member's forth division one was different.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by siton12 View Post
                  ...actually it was the wire Endstück that I kinda like in the first place,member's forth division one was different.
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                  To be honest I think the backstrap of the one for sale is very strange (especially the tip which is supposed to be pointed....

                  If the Y straps are real, then I would most certainly would like to see more pictures of the backstrap !! I don't trust it... at all !!

                  Tom
                  www.mp44.nl

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by siton12 View Post
                    ...actually it was the wire Endstück that I kinda like in the first place,member's forth division one was different.
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                    The only difference with my straps is the backstrap (Endstück) and the main support hooks. I've studied the whole thing and it is exactly the same down to the number of stitches, the shape of the holes, the way the leather is finished ( paint and the cut edges ) and the cut of the leather.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 4th division View Post
                      The only difference with my straps is the backstrap (Endstück) and the main support hooks. I've studied the whole thing and it is exactly the same down to the number of stitches, the shape of the holes, the way the leather is finished ( paint and the cut edges ) and the cut of the leather.
                      Look at the rivets......also look at the protective leather piece of the O-ring (the thickness) , the way its cut....im sorry but its not the same.

                      Better pictures of the current strap on Estand will clear more....

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                        #12
                        1. I can't inspect the rivets on the one featured on the E-stand because they are taken with too much light.
                        2. The shape is the same. The thickness? Leather is a natural product. Naturally the leather on a sheet isn't the same thickness everywhere. If you look at other Y-straps you can see variations in thickness. I have one wich has one of the main straps thicker then the other.

                        I'm sorry but it is the same manufacture, the same cut, but a later model. That explains the simplified hooks and the rear strap.

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                          #13
                          Lets agree to disagree

                          btw, I think this is a most interesting thread !

                          Tom
                          www.mp44.nl

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                            #14
                            Lets agree not to tell the ALL the faults mr faker makes...

                            Stick to the most obvious ones...

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                              #15
                              That might be so, but still these Y straps are the same. They are either, both wonderful condition unmolested Y-straps or both fakes!

                              Imho, still they are good.

                              If you have a good source and details wich proves these are repro please tell me, if you don't want to put the details in the thread PM me!

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