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    *** russian mapcase used by wehrmacht ? ***

    can anyone verify whether this mapcase is a) ww2 red army russian, and b) legitimately used by wehrmacht during the war as captured equipment? many thanks in advance.
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    100% good RKKA map case(hard to find with extra divider), hard to judge that WH re-issue

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      #3
      Definately russian II WW model ( if I rember correct it will M40 mapcase ) and might be used by german soldiers ( but most often were used M41 mpacases ).

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        #4
        Originally posted by corporalSteiner View Post
        can anyone verify whether this mapcase is b) legitimately used by wehrmacht during the war as captured equipment?
        Why do you think it may have been used by the WH?

        I had one of those same pattern cases that was mfd in occupied Germany for the Soviet Army. It had a German manufacturer's stamp on it and was dated 1946. It was very high quality but, alas, I sold it on e-bay years ago!

        Are there any markings on your case that lead you to believe it was WH used?

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          #5
          a) yes
          b) why not? anything is possible

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            #6
            Originally posted by Dmv View Post
            a) yes
            b) why not? anything is possible
            1a-thanks very much!
            1b-youre right, this may well have been on a wehrmacht serviceman's person during the war. ;^)

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              #7
              many thanks to you all, gentlemen of WAF, for generous time given to this thread. this case packs a punch and im grateful to you all for taking the time to consider and comment!

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                #8
                Gentlemen,

                Any more information on that M1941 model? Is this the model without detachable part and with a panel in synthetic rubber-like material?
                Recently I found a 'Nachlass' of a WH veteran with a Russian mapcase in it. As it comes out of the ex-DDR, I never can be sure whether this case was added to the 'Nachlass' before or after the war. There were some pictures in it and an Oberschütze star together with a WH map of Poland.
                There's IMO no way of knowing for sure if an item like this was WH used or not, except when you find a Landser wearing it in a picture. Pencil and ink writings (names, Feldpostnummer, ranks...) could be a good sign of course, but are easily faked.
                I would say that ANY Soviet mapcase, made before 1945 could have been used by the WH (theoretically). If you want to equip a mannequin setup with this item (model 1940), you couldn't go wrong IMO. That's why I want more info on the other (M1941) model: how long was it produced after the war, are there special features to recognize pre-1945 production etc. etc. Who can help out?

                Thanks,

                Lucius

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Luciusdegeer View Post
                  Gentlemen,

                  Any more information on that M1941 model? Is this the model without detachable part and with a panel in synthetic rubber-like material?
                  Recently I found a 'Nachlass' of a WH veteran with a Russian mapcase in it. As it comes out of the ex-DDR, I never can be sure whether this case was added to the 'Nachlass' before or after the war. There were some pictures in it and an Oberschütze star together with a WH map of Poland.
                  There's IMO no way of knowing for sure if an item like this was WH used or not, except when you find a Landser wearing it in a picture. Pencil and ink writings (names, Feldpostnummer, ranks...) could be a good sign of course, but are easily faked.
                  I would say that ANY Soviet mapcase, made before 1945 could have been used by the WH (theoretically). If you want to equip a mannequin setup with this item (model 1940), you couldn't go wrong IMO. That's why I want more info on the other (M1941) model: how long was it produced after the war, are there special features to recognize pre-1945 production etc. etc. Who can help out?

                  Thanks,

                  Lucius
                  collectmilitaria.com had an item on its site and i would like to show it here, as perhaps it may at least help in a more broader way to answer your question, and that perhaps of others....
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Luciusdegeer View Post
                    There's IMO no way of knowing for sure if an item like this was WH used or not, except when you find a Landser wearing it in a picture. Pencil and ink writings (names, Feldpostnummer, ranks...)
                    I had one that was used by a german:

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...light=mapcases

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                      #11
                      I have the same One also used and named by a German Soldier. Those captured Russian Mapcases are often to find here at German Flee Markets. Most of them are German named and the Russian Company Stamps are removed. I was a common Practise to use that kind of captured Material.

                      Andy

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                        #12
                        Genossen,
                        a, Da,
                        b, Unlawful use of state property will be viewed in a very poor light by a People's Court.

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