Leather case for what?

[derspiess63]

Hi

I looked it up in my German version of the mentioned book page 473, no pictures but a description of the "Marschtasche" telling the size are and I checked it on my own, almost correct 23 x 20 x 7,5 cm. The book say WaA on the back, mine WaA is on the side, I guess minor differences. So I guess Manny are correct. Well done. btw I actually have a lot of books but without pictures, therefor hard to find I guess.
Anyway I don't get it? Why do a pouch like this have WaA in the first place? Could really not be needet for warfare? Do someone have the knowledge to explain me! The whole idea where, how and when the use of inspection and WaA stamping took place.
For obvious reasons some parts must be inspected and prooffed, but why a Marschtasche and similar non warfare and weapon related items. I haven't found the explanation in any book yet.

I forgot to say.
I would still love to have a look at the rear of the pouch on the picture, why as I said in those days many pouches was made for all kind of purposes.

Regards
Kim

Nice point Kim,
but,you see, since the Waa was stamped on many "official"items,no wonder that it's been stamped on such a pouch as well!You certainly know that almost anything was "official"in WW2(and before!)Germany and since Music Bands were part of the Armed Forces many items would have been Waa stamped as well!
Your last point is even nicer:many pouches(or cases or..you name it)were made following "fixed"criteria,i.e, they should have been worn on the belt but also carried with a shoulder strap,therefore D-rings and belt loops were of a fairly common and standard design!My pouches are identical to the one our friend has posted, and I'm sure to yours too and the description I have in my book,in Angolia's "Uniforms and Traditions of the WH" and "Uniforms and Traditions of the LW" supply you with the very same details!
Me.....I'll put one these pouches on an Artillery Uffz mannequin,and if he'll be against regulations,well, off he'll go to the Ostfront !
Best
Manny

[georgecl]

Sorry I asked

[kmh]

Hi Georgecl

Don't say that! If you don't ask you will never get an answer, sometime the debate turns on with differencies in oppinion, but still thats what I/we like! It think its better to use a little power by entering a discussion, than rather give it up. So don't be nervous or sad for asking.

My twoandahalfcent
Regards
Kim

[georgecl]

Thanks for the info. It did help.. George Liuzunie

[derspiess63]

Hi George and Kim,
while checking eight hundredor so pictures of German Soldiers on the Eastern Front I've found this one, showing two members of a battery of NbW41 manning a Torn.Fu.d2!
This photo plainly goes to show that anything could be put to good use,and in this case the (in)famous pouch would have carried manuals,papers or even valves,fuses and spare parts for the Torn.Fu.d.2!
No need to add the the two blokes haven't been sent to the Ostfront for having used a piece of equipment for a purpose different from the one it had originally been intended for !
Hope that helps a bit more!
Manny

[kmh]

Great Manny

Thanks for looking around for solving the "problem" Can we learn something about this? Is there simillar looking pouches, but different to construction, as I suggested? Anyway the "Bandsman" pouch have been around it actually could have been the Band on tour in Kiev area 1942 without the instruments. Joking!!
btw. I actually have a pouch that came with the strap like on the picture, regid constructed as well.

The interior of some of my pouch shown clearly more "working" marks that papers and drumsticks etc. can make. One I have shown clearly "Tool" markings in the leather, like the 08 pistol hardcase where you also clearly can recognize the position of the (loading mecanicme) the knurled nut ??don't no the prober name. But the pouche have for sure seen all kind of use as you say over time.
But it gives us more knowledge and some happy moments finding such evedence for use.

Thanks and regards

Kim

Hi George and Kim,
while checking eight hundredor so pictures of German Soldiers on the Eastern Front I've found this one, showing two members of a battery of NbW41 manning a Torn.Fu.d2!
This photo plainly goes to show that anything could be put to good use,and in this case the (in)famous pouch would have carried manuals,papers or even valves,fuses and spare parts for the Torn.Fu.d.2!
No need to add the the two blokes haven't been sent to the Ostfront for having used a piece of equipment for a purpose different from the one it had originally been intended for !
Hope that helps a bit more!
Manny

[derspiess63]

Great Manny

Thanks for looking around for solving the "problem" Can we learn something about this? Is there simillar looking pouches, but different to construction, as I suggested? Anyway the "Bandsman" pouch have been around it actually could have been the Band on tour in Kiev area 1942 without the instruments. Joking!!
btw. I actually have a pouch that came with the strap like on the picture, regid constructed as well.

The interior of some of my pouch shown clearly more "working" marks that papers and drumsticks etc. can make. One I have shown clearly "Tool" markings in the leather, like the 08 pistol hardcase where you also clearly can recognize the position of the (loading mecanicme) the knurled nut ??don't no the prober name. But the pouche have for sure seen all kind of use as you say over time.
But it gives us more knowledge and some happy moments finding such evedence for use.

Thanks and regards

Kim

Hi Kim,
it's a pity we cannot see the interior of the pouch shown in my picture!I know the interior of mine(and presumably of yours as well!)and as you know it could have easily and comfortably contained many different things..and pens too;seen the pencil holders?The description of the Musician's Marschtasche found in the original manuals edited for the German Soldier and in Angolia's books is spot on(measures,design,D-rings,loops and stuff!) and it could well be that your point has a strong base, in that it could well also be that two different pouches could be identical when seen from outside only to be different inside !
Keep safe
Manny

[kmh]

Manny

Another confusing evedence??? Try to have a closer look at the picture of the Bandmans pouch in the top area! There are missing the two piece of leather for closing the side? in compare to the other one and mine also? Could that give us the answer, meaning two diffrents cases one for Bandsman and one for whatever use.

Regards
Kim