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**uscob** · 12-04-2010, 10:40 AM

My granddad also told me that they used Soviet Equipment whe he was in russia. He said, the first they dias to grab a PPSh, because it was the only weapon what worked properly in the nice russian weather.

**Theoderich** · 12-04-2010, 10:49 AM

Sure, many soldiers wore the russian winter jackets and- trousers...

**anmarlodz** · 12-04-2010, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by uscob View Post

My granddad also told me that they used Soviet Equipment whe he was in russia. He said, the first they dias to grab a PPSh, because it was the only weapon what worked properly in the nice russian weather.

it was very common practice. I have somewhere photo where german soldiers came accross russian pow's column and most of those german soldiers had russian 'guardian" backpacks or russian mapcases.

but as said before these are not german belts but russian main support belts for equipment.

**anmarlodz** · 12-04-2010, 03:08 PM

here is mine , what suspect to be , trousers belt. Unfortunately damaged.

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**anmarlodz** · 12-04-2010, 03:10 PM

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**Viktor** · 12-05-2010, 05:16 AM

Originally posted by anmarlodz View Post

agree with Robert these are red army belts.

Tak tochno Genossen, these are Red Army Belts, unlawful use by Wehrmacht Personnel will be added to the War Crimes Charges.....

**Gran Sasso** · 12-05-2010, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post

M44 belts are so rare, in 25 years I have seen ONE original one, and that one I found at a fleamarket 2 years ago, for 1,-EUR.

Here it is:

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**Gran Sasso** · 12-05-2010, 03:18 PM

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**David Fettes** · 12-08-2010, 07:01 PM

My belt is the same as first posted. Still do not know what to make of it.

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**David Fettes** · 12-08-2010, 07:02 PM

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**corporalSteiner** · 12-09-2010, 05:19 AM

Originally posted by David Fettes View Post

My belt is the same as first posted. Still do not know what to make of it.

yup. this is the belt type that started the thread...gents here seem to think they are not ww2 german....funny how they have turned up here and there. and it would be nice to know their source. ok, we know the 'm44' toruser belt. but what about this one? well, seems like its a fake from thread comments...

**David Fettes** · 12-09-2010, 08:53 AM

So it would seem, I bought this at a Berlin flea market in 2001 for 50 pfennigs so no real loss.

**corporalSteiner** · 12-09-2010, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by David Fettes View Post

So it would seem, I bought this at a Berlin flea market in 2001 for 50 pfennigs so no real loss.

interesting
so not sure really...and no real hard news either way on your belt or those of thread starter....the m44 belt, ok, fairly clear. but these ones with the post war-looking buckle...im still none the wiser on these items.

**Alex Ciavaglia** · 12-10-2010, 07:54 AM

Originally posted by David Fettes View Post

My belt is the same as first posted. Still do not know what to make of it.

All these belts where used to hold on the sword and sabre in the officer parade or walking out uniform. They are perfectly german ww2 belts but not use for feld trousers.
Alex

**Gran Sasso** · 12-10-2010, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Alex Ciavaglia View Post

All these belts where used to hold on the sword and sabre in the officer parade or walking out uniform. They are perfectly german ww2 belts but not use for feld trousers.
Alex

I have thought in that direction, too - they reminded me at the navy sword belts.
However, as the buckle does not match those, I didnt continue to investigate further in that direction.

So it looks like army and navy had diff. buckles for their sword belts.

Maybee posting those belts in the dagger forum would be helpfull?

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