Rations! Rations! Ration! The one stop thread about German Rations of WWII.

[Theoderich]

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[djpool]

In the book we showed a few products from August Grill a store which operated from 1912 to 1965. A large number of packaging from the store surfaced within the last 10 years. The problem was trying to figure out exactly when the packaging was manufactured. We analyzed the available facts and compared them to the packaging in order to come to some conclusions. We put the data in the attached chart. The two facts we do know:
- In 1929 the phone number for the store was 68. Other businesses in Schorndorf were also using 3 digit phone numbers.
- In 1934 the store was offering 3% Rabatts (discounts) in accordance with the Discount Act of 1933 which limited discounts to 3%. This act was not repealed until 2001.

So from the few facts we concluded that packaging with a 68 phone number were in fact wartime/pre war. Certain packages with a 68 number also carried a ships logo so we figured the ships logo was also a characteristic of wartime/pre war packaging. The ships logo was also found on packages with a phone number of SA 368 and 468. We found no packages that had a combination of the ships logo and 3% Rabatt, so we concluded the ships logo was used between 1912-Nov 1933. There were packages where the phone number 468 was used separately with either the 3% Rabatt or ships logo. So we concluded that the use of the three digit phone number was wartime.

As far as the originality of the packaging with a 2468 phone number goes, we believe they are also wartime. We compared two almost identical packages one with the phone number 468 and the other 2468. Both had the 3% Rabatt and the construction of both sacks was the same. The major difference was there were 8 stores listed on the 468 sack and only 4 on the 2468 sack. However since we had no definitive postwar packages to compare to, we can't rule out that 2468 was a postwar phone number. Regards Jim

[Theoderich]

Zwieback wrapping paper, unused

[djpool]

Dirk,

great stuff as usual. Heres their listing in the 1929 Mosse register.Jim

[djpool]

Here are a couple of new items I got in.First up is a nice vinegar bottle. H.Dv. 86/1 specifies vinegar as one of the condiments to be issued to soldiers during redeployments. Of course the question is how would the soldier carry it. He wasn't issued any equipment that would serve that need. This style of small bottle would certainly fit the bill. Unfortunately most of the label is missing, so I can't determine who the manufacturer is.

[djpool]

Heres a nice jar obviousily made for honey. The honey comb effect is kinda neat. On the front of the jar is a stylized bee hive with little bees flying around it. I believe it was manufactured by Alwin Franz of Leipzig which used a bee hive as their logo. On the bottom of the jar you'll notice the M over V stamp. I think it denotes the firm of Muller and Co. from Vollstedt. The firm operated from 1907-1949 and is most famous for its decorative porcelain and figurines. The factory was destroyed during the war and the company re located to West Germany in 1949. They attempted to start up production in the west but failed. The logo used on their porcelain was a M over V with a crown above that. I believe they simplied the logo for their glass products. Just my thoughts.

[djpool]

Another nice item from Zeugmeister.

[Theoderich]

Here is an addition to the "Dextro Energen" stuff in the rations book. I don`t know if these are civilian or military used boxes!?

[Theoderich]

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[HERMSDORF]

Very Nice, Dirk

Here are my newest Discoveries from an Luftwaffe/Waffen-ϟϟ related Area. Please note the "Frucht Sirup" Concentrate Bottle with red Bakelite Screw Cup and the Remain of "Farmer Romadur" 30% "Alpen Dream Cheese" Cellophane-Paper

Best Regards

Andy

[HERMSDORF]

Frucht Sirup

[Theoderich]

Alpen dream cheese!

So, here is a nice small cheese card board...

[Theoderich]

And this kind of deydrated butter milk can is shown in the Rations book, this is dated 43 7 ...

[djpool]

Andy and Dirk-nice items. Dirk I can't find anything on the Dextro Energen containers. Andy nice cheese label and bottle.Jim

[Theoderich]

Jim, i think they are period, the same colors as the Butterdosen.
A question, on some cheese packages in your book and on some packages here showed are "codes", like on my "Elite" the "B 1540", i think these are the makers, what do you think?

Best regards

Dirk