WW2 or Post War Flare Pouch?

[hcliffe]

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[hcliffe]

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[whsammler]

Looks post war to me.

[Bergflak]

yes, indeed! I still haven't seen one (original) of these made of leather, while the BW model always seems to be made of leather.

[hcliffe]

None of the WW2 models made of leather? That seems strange to me. Thanks for the help!

[BrunoH]

Hi,

Some pictures of a good one (which has a little bit suffered ...). It would give you some ideas:

Front side:



Back side



Left side:



Internal:





And markings (on the right side)



Hope it helps

Regards

[hcliffe]

Thanks for the pics Bruno. It looks like one major difference is that on the back, the straps that hold the lid to the bottom are stitched on instead of riveted. Is that always the case?

[whsammler]

BrunoH,

Thanks for posting this...so many of the "WWII" pouches that are offered on the internet Ebay etc are 90% post war that have been "doctored" to look like WWII units. Goofy ink stamps fake paper content lables.....the list goes on....and many of them get good $$$ when they sell.

I have yet to add a leather or Prestoff flare pouch to my collection....until I can see one with my hands im going to hold out.....Im happy with the web flare pouch that I have now.

I just recieved a photo watermarking program from one of our fellow WHA members (thanks very much FIELDGEAR) so once I have had some time to work with it I will begin reposting photos of my collection....and I will start with my web flare round pouch.

[BrunoH]

Hi whsammler,

120 % agree with your comment (specially with the incredible detail .. the very nice and famous big eagle with the flavour of fresh ink... ).
Anyway, the smell of this kind of pouch is very ... kind of mix of cigare... leather ... very strange ... and never forget it..

Wait a little bit and you would find one ;-)

Regards

[madandi]

This leather-pouch was long time ago in ebay. I missed it

[madandi]

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[François B.]

This leather-pouch was long time ago in ebay. I missed it

I don't like this one either... Looks not good IMO....



The pouch started this thread is post war not as the others already said...
Even the cartridges are post-war...

[Michael Kuligowski]

This leather-pouch was long time ago in ebay. I missed it

if You will go to Craig's Gottlieb page - He was selling the same pouch - he has a better picture of it - where date seems to be restamped..
http://www.craiggottlieb.com/data/in...rman+Militaria

[Bergflak]

None of the WW2 models made of leather? That seems strange to me. Thanks for the help!

Whoops! Not that easy. We need to be more specific:
-The low model was entirely made of leather, and is NORMALLY always marked with maker details at the center front flap. Can sometimes be found with brass hardware if made prior to 1938. (The low model in this thread does not look original to me, butif not it is the first BW I have seen of this model!)
-The high model (will accept 18 long flares) is always made of presstoff, period!! I have never seen a German WW2 made pouch of this model in leather. The leather ones are always BW manufacture!! Normally stamped on the left side low (seen from front)

[whsammler]

Classic fake getting good $$

http://cgi.ebay.com/WW-2-German-Flar...QQcmdZViewItem