Y-straps

[Admiraal]

Hey, what do you guys think about these ?
thanks in advance

[MP44_tom]

Pictures are not clear enough, but 1st impression is not good, too many features of czech Y straps (end piece etc)
I would walk away

Tom
www.mp44.nl

[19BARBAROSSA41]

100% czech made post war Y straps . sory

[Admiraal]

hehe i'll run away from it, thanks can you maybe tell me how i can see that they are czech?

[Michael Kuligowski]

hehe i'll run away from it, thanks can you maybe tell me how i can see that they are czech?

100
% czech

Rick - take these pictures - then find a pictures od real ones.. and compare - thats how You will learn about these differences

[david stone]

To tell if they are Czech...if the leather is embossed like snakeskin, they are surely Czech. Also sometimes seen in normal leather, and rarely, in k98 pouch type pebbling.
On these, some hardware was exchanged, but they were just dyed black. Best if stitching is white on both sides! However, the construction is still not right. Real Ystraps have the smooth side of the leather in, and the rough side out. Czech ones are made with the smooth side out and rough side in.
These get harder to tell, especially if they are unpatterned leather, and they have been taken apart, dyed, and turned as to be inside out. But there will always be the traces of they very typically Czech narrow leather tab that holds the Drings.
Alot of these are converted, not to decieve collectors, but as a cheap alternative for reenacting - though the ones you posted look like some movie prop ones I've seen. A well converted and then well used set can look pretty good...but....Czech ones start life looking much the same as any other Czech strap. Real Y straps have a wider variance in fittings and Dring attachment.

hehe i'll run away from it, thanks can you maybe tell me how i can see that they are czech?

[Daniele C]

can anyone tell me the difference between fake and good Y straps please?

[Michael Kuligowski]

can anyone tell me the difference between fake and good Y straps please?

what fake ???

there is no "typical" fakes.. and no "typical" originall straps - it all changes thru the years...

there is no other way to learn about these - but thru personal experience

get some books... look around... go to shows - LEARN....

thats my only advice - forums like this are good - but You cant build a collection only thru a forum - without studing the real things. it takes years....

[Daniele C]

no Micheal i only mean where they change on fakes ones as i never seen a fake one.
Where to look for spottin a fake from a good y strap

[Michael Kuligowski]

no Micheal i only mean where they change on fakes ones as i never seen a fake one.
Where to look for spottin a fake from a good y strap

I still dont follow exactly what You mean my Friend !!

like I said before - there is a lot of different fakes - repaired.. put together.. post war... made up reneacting ones.. etc..

and there is no general rule about that.... - no "universal" rules on how to spot a fake....

sorry../ I cant help more - I can help only if I see a particular example...

[Admiraal]

The hunt for Y-straps go's on

i can trade this Y-strap for some stuff i got, what do you guys think?
it looks like the rough side is out, so thats a good thing right?







Any comments are welcome.
Sorry for the bad pics, I asked the guy for better pictures.

[Michael Kuligowski]

The hunt for Y-straps go's on

i can trade this Y-strap for some stuff i got, what do you guys think?
it looks like the rough side is out, so thats a good thing right?







Any comments are welcome.
Sorry for the bad pics, I asked the guy for better pictures.

they maybe rough side out - but they are 99% czech or made up...

pictures really sucks...

... IMHO

[Admiraal]

yea pictures suck, so i asked him for a scan and got it.
hmm when i look at tom's site (i do that alot) the y-strap is very differend, the hooks etc.
Also, whats a good book about german WWII equipment?

[Admiraal]

Here another picture:




EDIT: oh he send me another one:
hmm when i compair this picture to an original it doesn't look very differend.

[Michael Kuligowski]

Rick !!
- tharts early czech straps for sure - look how wide O-ring underlay is.. - and the way stiches go on this part - compare to real german ones. Compare back strap - the way holes are cut in it..

cheers

some of my straps - maybe these pictures will help a bit...