Identify spade

[rick1]

Hi, Can anyone name the country of origin? German, Swiss etc.
I have never seen the handle octagonal before.

The blade is marked F.A. SCH 41
Thanks

ftp://phinfan32765:susandiehl@home.b..._1441 copy.jpg

ftp://phinfan32765:susandiehl@home.b..._1442 copy.jpg

ftp://phinfan32765:susandiehl@home.b..._1443 copy.jpg

[Seigfried]

Hi, Can anyone name the country of origin? German, Swiss etc.
I have never seen the handle octagonal before.

The blade is marked F.A. SCH 41
Thanks

ftp://phinfan32765:susandiehl@home.bellsouth.net/Picture_1441 copy.jpg

ftp://phinfan32765:susandiehl@home.bellsouth.net/Picture_1442 copy.jpg

ftp://phinfan32765:susandiehl@home.bellsouth.net/Picture_1443 copy.jpg

Hi,
I'm pretty sure that SCH means Swiss. FA = Federal Army?

John

[olivyaya]

In German "Swiss" is "Schweiz"

[rick1]

spade

Thanks guys I had a feeling it was Swiss, how about this one with its bent ears this one is surely WW2 German right?



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...541291821&rd=1

[Michael Kuligowski]

Thanks guys I had a feeling it was Swiss, how about this one with its bent ears this one is surely WW2 German right?



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this one is also far from my imagination of "textbook" german spade - not for my collection...

[hcliffe]

Hi Michael, what is wrong with the 2nd one? Looks okay to me.

[Michael Kuligowski]

Harry !!!
I am not expert on spades - but there is only one type of straight spades I accept (paranoic )


thats the ones I accept:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...5&postcount=32

these are guranateed german ww2 period production...
If I would start collecting also all types of spades that germany manufactured from 1911 till 1939.... and all kinds they captured during WW1 and WW2.... I would get crazy

[CWP]

I wouldn't buy a supposedly WWII German shovel with a ring around the metal where the shovel joins the handle as on the second one above. Also the octagonal handle is undoubtedly WWII Swiss as was mentioned.

Chris P.

[david stone]

The second shovel has a very uniquely German ring to the handle - it is formed from extensions of the tang of one side of the shovel. From one side it looks like it has a ring - from the other side it doesn't. It isn't a separate and moveable ring like all the other "rings" I know about.

Dave

I wouldn't buy a supposedly WWII German shovel with a ring around the metal where the shovel joins the handle as on the second one above. Also the octagonal handle is undoubtedly WWII Swiss as was mentioned.

Chris P.

[rick1]

The second shovel has a very uniquely German ring to the handle - it is formed from extensions of the tang of one side of the shovel. From one side it looks like it has a ring - from the other side it doesn't. It isn't a separate and moveable ring like all the other "rings" I know about.

Dave

Thanks David I was thinking the same thing, Since I collect German field gear 1935-40 I would be happy if it was just a early model not necessarily made between 39-45. I do know how this differs from the normal ww2 German spades http://www.1944militaria.com/origina...at_shovels.htm
I was just wondering who you guys thought made this one.
Thanks for your comments. Rick