Reichsführung-SS Brigadeführer

[BlaineLeamon87]

The 45th uniform is put together imo, I suggest posting that on the USMF. The Chemical patch is very odd compared to known originals. As for the SS uniform, the insignia looks good but I have a feeling the yellowing of the tunic matches underneath all the insignia...hard telling either way as its a summer blouse with very common insignia.

I'm curious where the "pulled out of Tennesse estate sale from 45th Infantry vet" story came from...

Blaine

[afrikasandman]

Additionally, the eagle and old fighter chevron seem to be hand sewn from the photos and the cuff title machine sewn? How are the collar tabs? No under shots of the collar? Just seems a bit odd to me as one would typically machine sew it all or hand sew it all. We all know variations exist but I guess when dealing with something like this I’d want to be beyond sure.

Matt

[J. M. C.]

Hi William,
Simply AMAZING! Congratulations on the great find.

[afrikasandman]

Big thread on Warrelics from when this was found on a fleamarket.

Can we get that link? Perhaps it would answer some questions. Matt

[afrikasandman]

Billy,

Can you post up some decent photos since you used the same ones from the WRF? Since you said you have it maybe some decent photos would solve all the questions that are out there. Anyone ever try to reach out to the vet since it’s mentioned that the box and other stuff was with it? I mean these photos don’t really say a whole lot other than the tabs appear original but I don’t know enough about SS cuff titles to call it one way or the other.

The original thread from WRF:

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/ss-uni...-tunic-216920/

Matt

[Eyedea794]

Reichsführung-SS Brigadeführer

Looks like the same pics that were posted in the Warrelics forum in 2012. [emoji848][emoji848]
http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/ss-uni...Chrung-SS+45th

[sutka]

you guys making very good point here

[Immelmann]

just come out and say it.....so he is pretending he owns it.

[kyles bullets]

Have to love how everyone here is focusing on the original thread starter’s name rather than the tunic at hand more or less.

[all1knew]

Have to love how everyone here is focusing on the original thread starter’s name rather than the tunic at hand more or less.

wait, what tunic at hand? This one or the white one?

This is comical after what I just showed the forum here; the accusations are laughable.

To the 4,357 people that sent a PM looking to buy, I will be keeping this bring-back grouping in it's entirety but I sincerely appreciate the interest.

William Kramer

[cossack1648]

Seems like a nice tunic with real insignia, but you need more close up pictures of details showing wear patterns to be able to say more than that.

Jack

[afrikasandman]

Billy,

I’m glad 4,357 people have offered to buy it! Score for you then.

That said, it still hasn’t addressed the question about the tunic and the additional pics. I for one, am interested in some additional pics with the tabs, Eagle, chevron and of those are hand sewn or machine sewn... did anyone attempt to contact the vet to find out some details on it?

People want to know who potentillay owned it and if the vet remembers where he got the tunic that could be the piece that brings it all together. So, can we get some additional pics of the SS tunic?

The good conduct medal is the question with the US uniform and the knot on it. I believe those are for every 3 years of service that Soldiers gain those for the ribbon. The chem patch is rare, I don’t know if it’s legit or not. I just know these are pretty uncommon.

Waiting to see some additional pics of the SS stuff.

Matt




QUOTE=all1knew;8314369]wait, what tunic at hand? This one or the white one?

This is comical after what I just showed the forum here; the accusations are laughable.

To the 4,357 people that sent a PM looking to buy, I will be keeping this bring-back grouping in it's entirety but I sincerely appreciate the interest.

William Kramer[/QUOTE]

[NickG]

Why is using old images an issue? Really weird....
It’s about the tunic and if the pictures are good use them...
it only proves that the uniform has not been altered/created/played with. It shows a good pedigree. Congrats on owning a piece (THE piece) of a life time.
And that high ranking SA uniform is also killer....what a score Billy!!!

[all1knew]

And that high ranking SA uniform is also killer....what a score Bill!!!

thank you. Very excited myself. I didn't put a date and time stamp on this photo on the my car hood so I hope it will be good enough for the thread but here is the pair. The SA is unrelated but is Führung as well with silk border tabs.

Unfortunately the Vet passed away so I couldn't ask him for more information nor could I get his footlocker. Here is his enlistment record:

https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-...6lmu1W9cQ9j37g

William Kramer

[Brig]

The 45th uniform is put together imo, I suggest posting that on the USMF. The Chemical patch is very odd compared to known originals. As for the SS uniform, the insignia looks good but I have a feeling the yellowing of the tunic matches underneath all the insignia...hard telling either way as its a summer blouse with very common insignia.

I'm curious where the "pulled out of Tennesse estate sale from 45th Infantry vet" story came from...

Blaine

I doubt that vet had 9 years of service (3 GCMs)...or we'd most likely see some Korean War awards. If his service was pre-WWI, I would expect his rank to have advanced very rapidly during the war as people were wounded and killed, pre-war guys tended to move up due to that experience vice the draftees and mid-war inductees

That said, it was very common for Americans to wear stuff out of regs unknowingly, they weren't very well taught or strictly enforced during the war. You see mistakes, esecially on the ribbons, all the time. Since the uniform is named, his record can be requested through NARA to confirm/disprove the stuff on it