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    #46
    Originally posted by n160 View Post
    You guys have the measurement issue bass-akwards. Looking at the two left hand numbers: 44/70 is the torso length/ overall length for a FOUR POCKET Feldbluse. Panzer wraps typically have overall lengths from of 54-66 (depending on how tall the intended wearer was. ) I know, this will be poo-pooed due to this or that expert having stated otherwise. However, I MAKE this stuff- so I do have a little bit of expertise in this department. But don't take my word for it- go look at other (original) uniforms- 44/70 is a common SS four pocket tunic length- on M40, M42, M43, 44 dot etc.

    -Some SS wraps dispense with the overall length number and just have the torso size. (In other words 4 numbers instead of 5)

    -I have seen a number of otherwise "one looker" SS wraps with...4 pocket length stamps. This has vexed me for several years- they do not measure 70cm. I have talked to Mike Davis and a couple of "Panzer gods" and the collective jury is still out on that. I have never seen that done on Heer wraps.

    And just for good measure (no pun intended) here's the sizing table for Heer Panzer wraps from Hdv337. Ruckenlange & Ganze Lange (top row) are the numbers concerned. Note how they are also "too short" like the wrap in question. (54 to 66cm)

    -SS wraps tend to be 2-3cm longer than Heer per the same torso size. Also, Heer tunics only have odd numbered torso lengths- SS (and LW) use even and odd. (No idea why). Hence there is no size 44 Ruckenlange on the chart.

    There is a depressing amount of hokus pokus, conjecture, and voodoo in this hobby- but this particular issue can easily be verified with a .50 tape measure.


    This is very helpful. I want to thank each all of you who have commented. Does the below information with the chart/numbering make any reconsider this wrap? I'll wait for further comments.

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      #47
      Measure It, After we can talk about something.
      I know sleeves lenght usually is longer than real (May ve the exaxt measures started from shoulder boards loops)... Here the difference is huge and very Easy to spot in the pics.
      Measures is not all' bit we are talking about nothing with 3 pics... If we want continue se could reach 100 pages of nothing.

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        #48
        What additional pics do people want to see? What measurements do they want?

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          #49
          Originally posted by wolfslair44 View Post
          What additional pics do people want to see? What measurements do they want?
          lining, burlap material and the inner closure tabs, please

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            #50
            Originally posted by collector19 View Post
            lining, burlap material and the inner closure tabs, please
            Will do. Anything else that anyone wants me to request for pics?

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              #51
              Some additional photos provided.
              Attached Files

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                #52
                Photos with measurements.
                Attached Files

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                  #53
                  looks it doesnt match the size numbers

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                    #54
                    Right mesure start from Middle offline collar but It is clear the difference.
                    Of course Wool could retire also a pair of cm, sleeves are always shorter 2/3 cm than stamps but Here difference is huge

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