E-stand SS Panzer tunic

[Kenny1309]

+1 !!!! Beter know it is a restored one, thene spending 10k extra on a supposed to be original applied... Don't buy the story buy the items!!

99 % of all WSS tunics are restored. Near ZERO originally applied insignia to period WSS officers tunics are in collections today. If you guys think any different, then you are seriously mistaken and are foolish. You senior old school collectors are secretly nodding but won't chime in… However, I choose to say my tunic is "Restored" and is a perfect representative of a WSS "Der Fuhrer" Officers tunic.
Honesty is the best policy.
Steve

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[Petra]

might we see the tunic in question as the link to estand is no longer active
thanks

[wolfslair]

Panzer or the Der Fuhrer tunic?

[alone01]

might we see the tunic in question as the link to estand is no longer active
thanks

I've downloaded some pics of the Pz tunic, see below:

[alone01]

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[AntiqueWW2]

Nice Tunic, and with a fair Price. To pay 10k and more for something restored, nothing very smart to do

[wolfslair]

Nice Tunic, and with a fair Price. To pay 10k and more for something restored, nothing very smart to do

Show me an original unrestored complete WSS officers tunic

[AntiqueWW2]

I own a few. But thats not the point. Look at your Tunic. It is nice without a Question. But what you really have there? A Tunic and Effects, not a thing more or less. You will never be able to tell what your Tunic was when it started its life. You put the Insignias there and thats it. In fact anyone can go, buy a naked SS Tunic, just a few days back there where a few at HH Auctions for 1.500-2000 Euro. Then you go buy the Effects from the Unite you like, but them and you have your Tunic, done. Not something you need to be god to do so. And that is why i say, for something like this, i pay the price for the Tunic naked and for the Effects and maybe a bit more or less depend how good the Job of restoring is done. I personal would not pay a cent for a Tunic whats impossible to research and where i never will be able to tell what it was and who it had. Thats of course my opinion and my way of collecting, other have a different one and like just how it looks and not care on the background of it.

Show me an original unrestored complete WSS officers tunic

[wolfslair]

I own a few. But thats not the point. Look at your Tunic. It is nice without a Question. But what you really have there? A Tunic and Effects, not a thing more or less. You will never be able to tell what your Tunic was when it started its life. You put the Insignias there and thats it. In fact anyone can go, buy a naked SS Tunic, just a few days back there where a few at HH Auctions for 1.500-2000 Euro. Then you go buy the Effects from the Unite you like, but them and you have your Tunic, done. Not something you need to be god to do so. And that is why i say, for something like this, i pay the price for the Tunic naked and for the Effects and maybe a bit more or less depend how good the Job of restoring is done. I personal would not pay a cent for a Tunic whats impossible to research and where i never will be able to tell what it was and who it had. Thats of course my opinion and my way of collecting, other have a different one and like just how it looks and not care on the background of it.

O.K. I'll ask you again. Show me an original unrestored complete WSS officers tunic.
I'm not seeking an argument - just show me / us here on WAF

[AntiqueWW2]

I have to show nothing. There are enough untouched Tunics out there, one was just sold here for around 6k. And that was a real nice Tunic. If someone likes to post his untouched tunics he will. I just write here what opinion i have on restored Tunics in general. Your Tunic is nice, and i wish you all the best in selling it.

O.K. I'll ask you again. Show me an original unrestored complete WSS officers tunic.
I'm not seeking an argument - just show me / us here on WAF

[wolfslair]

I have to show nothing. There are enough untouched Tunics out there, one was just sold here for around 6k. And that was a real nice Tunic. If someone likes to post his untouched tunics he will. I just write here what opinion i have on restored Tunics in general. Your Tunic is nice, and i wish you all the best in selling it.

So in your professional opinion, was the Panzer WSS tunic restored or unrestored ?

[John Pic]

Here's an unrestored Waffen SS officers tunic...there I showed you one.

[John Pic]

The Panzer tunic looks nice but I don't care for the wide rank litze, most fake litze are wide like that. Tunic looks assembled in 2017 IMO.

[John Pic]

I own a few. But thats not the point. Look at your Tunic. It is nice without a Question. But what you really have there? A Tunic and Effects, not a thing more or less. You will never be able to tell what your Tunic was when it started its life. You put the Insignias there and thats it. In fact anyone can go, buy a naked SS Tunic, just a few days back there where a few at HH Auctions for 1.500-2000 Euro. Then you go buy the Effects from the Unite you like, but them and you have your Tunic, done. Not something you need to be god to do so. And that is why i say, for something like this, i pay the price for the Tunic naked and for the Effects and maybe a bit more or less depend how good the Job of restoring is done. I personal would not pay a cent for a Tunic whats impossible to research and where i never will be able to tell what it was and who it had. Thats of course my opinion and my way of collecting, other have a different one and like just how it looks and not care on the background of it.

Very well stated

[wolfslair]

Thanks John - I had a feeling you would chime in.
You would have to agree though, generally speaking, 99% of WSS Officers tunics in collections today are restored in one way, shape or form. With all due respect, how can we verify your claim to an unrestored tunic. It all boils down to the story that you were given when you purchased it. My point being is that you are a senior collector. Does that give a trump card in your take on provenance?
How can you be sure you've not been taken. Is it experience? Gut feeling?
Please don't take this as an insult. I'm curious to know as I'm sure other younger collectors would. BTW - that's an ugly tunic you have ..