Panzer SS-Sturmbannfuhrer Shoulder Board

[AntiqueWW2]

What you do not understand??? Your SS Boards are Crap, they will not be original no matter what links or pictures your post. They do not fit in any way the known construction of any boards. They are simple a fake, and really not a very good one as well. No one wants to make your things bad on purpose but they are what they are, not original.

[Marcel Banziger]

So he has added the tag ?! And the other thread with feedback is also not correct ?! :

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...turmbannfuhrer

Ref Basketwave

You have difficulties reading, do you?

I leave the commenting on authenticity over on the experienced collectors. Myself I am still learning a lot. I do however know that I don't judge originality of my items by comparing these with items on dealers' sites which are known for having fakes among originals.

[ruggeri]

Feedbadk

I can both read and write. I just wanted to be sure Michael after your feedback on Collectors Guild. You dont say that everything there is fake, and you dont say erspecially that german items are sold there as fake. But as long as you dont belive the item in the link from Collectors Guild, then it has to be fake in your opinion.

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S017966.html

In general, from this link, we can also say that John Pic (Association member) and Pman (member) are wrong

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...turmbannfuhrer

AntiqueWW2: Later today, as i told you, will the picture/litteratur regarding RK coming. Looking so forward to your reply....

[AntiqueWW2]

From all we can say is that you simple not accept what everyone tells you.....YOUR Board are not REAL. You come up with Treads who have nothing to do with your actually Boards, they have complete different boards there. So we can not say John Pic or anyone who posted there is wrong, because they did not post about YOUR BOARDs...they post about someone else Boards. So why you not simple accept that they are what they are and move on, we are not in Kindergarten here that all what someone write you put down.....so accept what everyone say about the boards or think they are real but stop then posting about them...it is really getting tired. More then help no one will be able to do, when you not want listen....Bad Luck.

I can both read and write. I just wanted to be sure Michael after your feedback on Collectors Guild. You dont say that everything there is fake, and you dont say erspecially that german items are sold there as fake. But as long as you dont belive the item in the link from Collectors Guild, then it has to be fake in your opinion.

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S017966.html

In general, from this link, we can also say that John Pic (Association member) and Pman (member) are wrong

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...turmbannfuhrer

AntiqueWW2: Later today, as i told you, will the picture/litteratur regarding RK coming. Looking so forward to your reply....

[Marcel Banziger]

I can both read and write. I just wanted to be sure Michael after your feedback on Collectors Guild. You dont say that everything there is fake, and you dont say erspecially that german items are sold there as fake. But as long as you dont belive the item in the link from Collectors Guild, then it has to be fake in your opinion.

Ok, I now see you really didn't understand me. No problem. I won't lose any sleep over it

I am curious to the opinions of the experts in this thread so I can learn more before I start to collect in this specific field of militaria myself.
And I suggest you also wait for the comments of experts here. Such opinions are far more valuable than any links to salesthreads from dealers who also sell fakes among originals

[ruggeri]

Feedback

From all we can say is that you simple not accept what everyone tells you.....YOUR Board are not REAL. You come up with Treads who have nothing to do with your actually Boards, they have complete different boards there. So we can not say John Pic or anyone who posted there is wrong, because they did not post about YOUR BOARDs...they post about someone else Boards. So why you not simple accept that they are what they are and move on, we are not in Kindergarten here that all what someone write you put down.....so accept what everyone say about the boards or think they are real but stop then posting about them...it is really getting tired. More then help no one will be able to do, when you not want listen....Bad Luck.

That you are getting tired, is of less interest for me. You are not in a position where you decide when i can say / or not say anything.

You are on the farest ice consering all items in the lot, except the SS Shoulderboards if the feedback from other well known collectors (not you) have given their feedback. For the RK items it will be my biggest pleasure later today. Really looking forward to you feedback.

The "kindergarden" phsycology and 28 years of experience card is something you dont need to use. As i said im awaiting feedback on the shoulderboards from several persons, and i will post their answer. If they are not in my favour, i will accept. In the meantime i hope collectors guild remove the pair they have, as they also must be fake.

[ruggeri]

Ok, I now see you really didn't understand me. No problem. I won't lose any sleep over it

I am curious to the opinions of the experts in this thread so I can learn more before I start to collect in this specific field of militaria myself.
And I suggest you also wait for the comments of experts here. Such opinions are far more valuable than any links to salesthreads from dealers who also sell fakes among originals

Marcel: I agree in what you say about the feedback. I can wait for the defintive feedback.

But i just wanted to be sure, as you state this as fake, then you also state the collectors guild pair to be fake. Of coruse some delaers from time to time have had fake. But i think it was interesting because then we have a nice pair at collectors guild that also has to be fake.

[Marcel Banziger]

Marcel: I agree in what you say about the feedback. I can wait for the defintive feedback.

But i just wanted to be sure, as you state this as fake, then you also state the collectors guild pair to be fake. Of coruse some delaers from time to time have had fake. But i think it was interesting because then we have a nice pair at collectors guild that also has to be fake.

Ruggeri: please READ what I said. I NOWHERE stated your boards are fake. Did I?? I also didn't write that the CG boards are fake. Did I?? As said: READ!! You seem to be stuck in your own mind and only respond to what you THINK is said to you, not to what actually is said to you!

I said I am not experienced enough. I follow this thread for myself to learn more before I buy SS boards myself with confidence.

I furthermore said, that using a dealers' site which mixes fakes inbetween originals can not be used to authenticate items. You need comments from experienced collectors to be certain of originality. Using CG as a guideline is not convincing.

Read back the whole thread and tell me where I said your boards are fake and also tell me where I said the boards on CG are fake!! Good luck finding those statements from my side!

[Marcel Banziger]

And top, another reason why this is interesting to me is because of friend of mine from Sogndal, his grandfather was a Milorg fighter and I have heard some stories from my friend. That's why I pay even more attention to this thread than other SS threads.

[frikorps-dk]

I wonder

I wonder , why does the Reichommisariatet in Oslo , have SS PZ Sturmbannfuhrer shoulderboards ? , since there Was no SS PZ forces in Norway , that i know of ? And only 1 of Each type ? And i most say , the pink pipping look stange imo ?

[AntiqueWW2]

You can wait until Christmas. The Shoulderboards are fake and will remain as such for ever. And for the rest of your Top Notch Lot, beside the low level Shoulderboard what i say at start that they can be real and all the little things KVK ect....remains for me fake as well. Some pictures from an ID Card will not change this. So if you have nothing else to do keep it up but i am very much sure here will nothing change anytime soon.....

That you are getting tired, is of less interest for me. You are not in a position where you decide when i can say / or not say anything.

You are on the farest ice consering all items in the lot, except the SS Shoulderboards if the feedback from other well known collectors (not you) have given their feedback. For the RK items it will be my biggest pleasure later today. Really looking forward to you feedback.

The "kindergarden" phsycology and 28 years of experience card is something you dont need to use. As i said im awaiting feedback on the shoulderboards from several persons, and i will post their answer. If they are not in my favour, i will accept. In the meantime i hope collectors guild remove the pair they have, as they also must be fake.

[AntiqueWW2]

Because it is some put together XYZ Lot what someone try to bring up as something from one Person.....

I wonder , why does the Reichommisariatet in Oslo ,
have SS PZ Sturmbannfuhrer shoulderboards ? , since there Was no SS PZ forces in Norway , that i know of ? And only 1 of Each type ? And i most say , the pink pipping look stange imo ?

[AntiqueWW2]

Marcel: I agree in what you say about the feedback. I can wait for the defintive feedback.

But i just wanted to be sure, as you state this as fake, then you also state the collectors guild pair to be fake. Of coruse some delaers from time to time have had fake. But i think it was interesting because then we have a nice pair at collectors guild that also has to be fake.

The Pair from Collectors Guild are complete different to yours. Just to look at the color of the piping should be enough to figure this one out..... Followed by the hole way of the style......

[Hilton]

Frikorps-dk Maybe you as a start should check out Panzer-Division.......... Norwegen :-)


http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...onen/NorPD.htm

[AntiqueWW2]

Frikorps-dk Maybe you as a start should check out Panzer-Division.......... Norwegen :-)


http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/...onen/NorPD.htm

Why? He was right, there was no SS Panzer Unit from any sort in Norway....WH of course.