Oberbayern cufftitle for review

[Barrymac]

Hi all,
May I have your opinions on this 1st pattern Oberbayern cufftitle please.
Is mise
Barry

[Barrymac]

More pictures

[Barrymac]

One more for good luck

[C. Betz]

Cuff Title

I believe this is an original example.

Charles Betz

[Barrymac]

Hi Charles. Many thanks.
Barry

[TomH]

Photographs of hand embroidered bands can sometime be deceptive but I'm afraid that on the basis of those shown and the quality of embroidery illustrated, I would pass.

Just my opinion.

Tom

[Barrymac]

Any more fresh opinions on this cufftitle please

[sutka]

is this cuff from emedals?
mark

[vuoripiru]

IMO nice original.

[Rich Moran]

If that is a 5 strand cuff band , its no good. Dont like the sloppy embroidery anyway. Back in those days only the best of the best were produced and frankly I believe that would not make the quality standard expected by Oberbayern. The price these go for anymore means seek one your 100% certain is original, otherwise you've sunk money into something that will be questioned & more difficult to sell when that time comes.

[Barrymac]

Hi all. Many thanks for all the feedback. It is greatly appreciated
Yes Mark it is for sale on Emedals at present

[Michael73]

Photographs of hand embroidered bands can sometime be deceptive but I'm afraid that on the basis of those shown and the quality of embroidery illustrated, I would pass.

Just my opinion.

Tom

I am with Tom here

[Barrymac]

Thanks Michael. I am thinking the same at this stage.

[rbno]

Not a slam dunk, but without airtight provenance, I'd pass.

Photographs are only fair, so it's hard to really see details. From the reverse shot, it looks to me to be a 7 strand band of acceptable weave pattern. I think white backing was used sometimes, but it's less common than black.

The quality of the embroidery just isn't up to snuff, IMHO. If I understand correctly, "Oberbayern" was used until September, 1938, making this a relatively early band which should have very high quality embroidery. Hand embroidered SS Cuff Titles are rarely perfect, but this one is a little too far off for my comfort.

[sutka]

thank you Barry
i did buy it and returned
as i collect cuffs and got lot of them i did very close vetting on this one
also was vetted on warrelics
its a nice cuff but most likely not original
mark