A display of "blurred edge" camouflage pieces

[viva_giulio]

As I said Cittadelle, not all items are easy to judge from pics and too much often in waf (more than other forums) items are burn. From these pics I see a combo of strange things but these are also present in good caps.
1) sewing on the top back zone
2) thread thick and kind of thread
3) sewing on top, the vertical one which joint 2 flat parts
4) not clear the holes near visor, usually the is stitching line which pass above visor and under front

[Citadelle]

Thank you viva giulio for your comments.

To my mind the material is real (I mean the blurred edge camouflaged stuff) and the type of sewing is conform to the standard too...

But what's questionable for some members are the thread whose colour is brighter than expected (apparently rather grey or black threads) and the metal air vents.

Best regards, J

[Jolly Roger]

This exact cap was the blurred edge example used for the thread "The SS Camo Cap" on this forum. Interestingly not one person on this forum called out the cap then. At that time there was nothing but praise. Now that the new owner has posted the cap ...its questionable? Interesting.
Citadelle, were you aware of that? The link you posted didn't work.
JimT, why call out the cap now and not when it was posted to that thread? You were a major contributor to that thread.

Citadelle, unfortunately it was also the exact same cap used by the originator of that very thread "The SS Camo Cap" as evidence of fraud by another collector/former member of this forum. This cap was destroyed here on the forum by Kammo Man and Fritz. Were you made aware of that prior to purchase?
Anyway, review those threads. I guess it just depends on who owns the cap in regards to its authenticity.

I remember well that Radek raised his concerns about some of the caps that have been posted by owen. This was immediately blocked by owen in the thread saying this was not the right thread for discussing this. Interestingly enough many of the posted items were and are being offered for sale now after these huge camo threads promoted them.

By the way I dont like the blurred edge cap from this thread either and would recommend to get a refund. The blurred edge caps I have seen by now from different sources and in different collections were all very consistent in their construction and sewing. This one is different.

[R.H.J]

Guru's are always bad news.

Suprising this one turned into the guy he hates, selling this fake cap and vouching for fake "horde" covers

[johann mor]

You naughty boy G.H.J, mentioning the hooky helmet cover hoard, I can hear the blood pressure monitors being turned on from here.

[kammo man]

I have been off line for 2 weeks and back today.
Nov 28.

Cap is 100% real.


owen

[Citadelle]

I thank Owen for his intervention.

It may be for us the opportunity to start a "constructive" debate about the questionable points for this cap in order to be able to determine its authenticity.

So it would be very nice if the members who have expressed doubts about this headgear on the post could explain the elements that lead them to considere this headgear as a fake.

Thank you in adavnce, J

[kubel44]

This is interesting, I would like to hear some elaborating on why the cap is made incorrectly. An explanation on why the "hoard" helmet covers are hokey too.

[viva_giulio]

Above you can find my points. More elaborated than "cap is 100% real" of course I advised about not all could be judged in pics

[David T]

Ctadelle, it has been discussed. This cap has been posted to the forum before. "The Ss Camouflage Cap" thread was not the first time. Please refer to thread "Camo Coming from Lorenzo? Post it here" thread started by Fritz. Page 5....exact same blurred edge cap in post 67. Issue was discussed ad nauseam until thread closed. Seller of the cap is free to debate with the member who stated cap was 100% fake in that thread , in that post.

[David T]

Also reference thread "Camo coming from Lorenzo-helmet cover". Same cap is in that thread.
Perhaps Jeff V can unlock those threads or link them here so they can be referenced.

[RobertE]

I have been off line for 2 weeks and back today.
Nov 28.

Cap is 100% real.


owen

Owen, this was your verdict last year on this exact cap:

"100% fake cap"

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...zo+show&page=5

You rarely reverse yourself on an item, and I am also interested in what has changed in the last year on this cap. As you know, this cap was trashed and used as part of the evidence against a collector who is now expelled from this forum.

It is fine to be wrong on an item, but it can't be both good and bad. I don't think you were trying to use your recent group postings of items as sales build-ups, and there is some fine material in there. But you posted that material as indisputably real stuff that collectors can use to sort good from bad.

s/f Robert

[kammo man]

Having a cap in hand can change opinion


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[dhunter93]

How is it that a 100% fake cap (your statement) owned by a past member (that was trashed as a crook) end up in your hands, then deemed authentic, and then sold by you?

[kammo man]

How is it that a 100% fake cap (your statement) owned by a past member (that was trashed as a crook) end up in your hands, then deemed authentic, and then sold by you?

I was shown cap in hand and took the plunge.