TK tabs for review

[militaria.no]

Guys guys guys – have you read the entire thread before comments go *piiing* *piiing* *piiing*?

This advice is already quoted twice in this thread:

Ed note: One of these should be on every key pinch before fairs

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...t+key&_sacat=0

Post #41 will be of interest:

Great info!
P.S. the one thing they can't fake is period material. Real SS tabs stay black under UV light = fakes turn a brownish color.

If you want to take any of your new items apart wait till you come home! There are enough items `glowing in the dark` on fairs:

[Regen]

These are not copies, these are near perfect counterfeits, and they are the death-bell for collecting this pattern of insignia.

my Friend Tony,
I repeat- these fakes, very high quality. BUT, they can be distinguished(even on a photo).
swindlers have made some mistakes and their fakes, have "watermarks".
we shouldnt worry

[Stossgruppe3]

Colleagues let's be realistic.How many years after WW-2 ? All dealer stores full tab of SS I'm sure if we start digging deeper it appears that the experience accumulated by generations of collectors is the dogs under the tail.Panic is certainly not worth it, you just need to be very careful.The theme touched on that REGEN only the tip of the iceberg IMO.

And what are we supposed to do with a black light at a show when it comes to SS Dachau-found collar tabs? Politely ask the seller if I can rip it apart to peel it open like a banana so I can back-light the backing?

I agree with Vladislav . . .

Its a time to tread carefully . . .
In most cases you can gently prize apart a runic tab without too much stress it will always steam back to shape with a damp cloth.

Also if we are entering a period when things have to change in the collecting world then so be it.
If the dealer cant sell you an item without a guarantee then stay well clear

Lets be careful out there . . .
Regards David

[darekm]

Even the best copies will often fall down under high magnification, perhaps these are the same? Two threads that look the same to the eye can be very different.

[militaria.no]

Even the best copies will often fall down under high magnification, perhaps these are the same? Two threads that look the same to the eye can be very different.

This hand held magnifier is great - another fair-tool:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/60X-Magnifyi...MAAOSwFqJWsEuf

[Basil]

I'm a bit disturbed by this thread. Clearly, from what Regen is telling us, there is a problem with very accomplished fakes which have been created fairly recently. That is, they have appeared on the market in the last year or so. It seems that he is only prepared to share his knowledge with a minority of people who post here, and yet someone among us is selling these things to people who are buying them in good faith.

If these tabs are fake, and provably so (which they seem to be), then name the faker! Otherwise the hobby simply descends into recrimination.

[Winkelman]

And what are we supposed to do with a black light at a show when it comes to SS Dachau-found collar tabs? Politely ask the seller if I can rip it apart to peel it open like a banana so I can backlight the backing?

These are not copies, these are near perfect counterfeits, and they are the death-bell for collecting this pattern of insignia. What's next on this bastards counterfeiting agenda? Early war Runes, vertical Totenkopf? At one time I could spot a replica SS Dachau collar tab from three meters away. These, I admit, I cannot tell, and it infuriates me that someone would make these for the sole purpose of profiting by producing near-perfect counterfeits. I have felt physically ill since this thread opened and Re broke this fraud wide open.

The bullion tabs etc. especially Runes, have become so contentious (five will say and five will say ), that I have stopped buying bullion Runes. I think the time has come for me to throw in the towel. After all these decades of collecting and study and learning, if I cannot tell if a tab is original from a counterfeit, even as they lie side-by-side, its time for me to leave.

+ 1 ..

Same here , glad to see that someone else dares admit to getting emotional over all this . I sure am upset and angry too .

Again , our beloved hobby is under serious attack - this time , they took out the " safe " items .

I actually returned to this thread today hoping to find out that it was all a big mistake or a bad joke .
A nightmare to wake up from - but the thread was still there , and it is getting worse .

Even the buckram material used for both the Pumpkinhead & the Dutch Wolfsangel appear authentic like nothing else I saw before used on fakes .

And I still can't tell the difference from the front either , for the first time ..

[Vladislav]

Even the buckram material used for both the Pumpkinhead & the Dutch Wolfsangel appear authentic like nothing else I saw used before on fakes .

I kept asking where these scumbags have found a grey thread.If the photo does not distort it authentic to the original..the reverse of the tabs also has an absolute hit.There are only small differences in the pitch lines.but it can always be attributed to the program of the machine

[Winkelman]

Of course ,
I would also very much like to :

thank our member Regen for his courageous work here .. !

Some will not like it .

Fortunately , I myself have few SS tabs without a solid background , but still I did stay up late for 2 nights wondering ,
if I should tear up the spine of some virgin Dachau tabs , just to make sure .. ?

[Winkelman]

For further illustration the reverses that were used on :

1. fake Pumpkinhead
2. fake Dutch Wolfsangel

meaning authentic / perfect counterfeit background materials are used on these .

I still hope to wake up from this nightmare , the Wolfsangel background is of course also the choice material for many Rauten / diamond insignia as well ..

[Winkelman]

1. Fake Pumpkinhead

[Winkelman]

Compared to some original Pumpkinhead reverses ..

[Winkelman]

But hey , what do I know after 30+ years of collecting .. ?
Maybe indeed it is time to give up ..

[Winkelman]

and then some ..

[Vladislav]

http://www.ulricofengland.com/prodsh..._/g007820.html Guys now dealers have tight.they will not Bank.I feel sorry for these dealers who believe the scams