SD tunic

[Oscar]

Gents,

Please opinion on this sd "open collar" tunic. Thank You in advance for Your help.

[Ian Hulley]

The tunic appears original but the straps are Heer Infantry not SD also no trace of an SD raute. My guess is that as there is a shadow of a cufftitle it's a stripped and rebadged SiPo tunic ... still desirable despite it's condition.

Ian

[ww2.collector]

The tunic appears original but the straps are Heer Infantry not SD also no trace of an SD raute.

But heer infanterie do not have black ground, so black groudn with wite second pipping IMO are SS related
Or are my eyes are incorect?

[Jon. H]

It has SS shoulderboards with greyish color and black underlay. I used to own this exact tunic ages ago, and it has been restored several times. As far as i know, this tunic has been made up as both Oberführer and Brigadeführer.

Basic tunic is 100% original, but in poor condition, and was restored several times. A well known dealer once asked me if i had used it as a bed for my cat, based on the condition

Just to mention it. I NEVER did anything to the tunic myself, and when i bought it i bought it as untouched. I returned it when i was made aware of the fact that it had been tampered with. And, when i owned it a Sieder fake officers eagle was on it.

Here's as Oberführer: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=339870

[Ian Hulley]

But heer infanterie do not have black ground, so black groudn with wite second pipping

I can't see a black background .... Obviously if the former owner say's it's there then it must be.

Ian.

[Jon. H]

I can't see a black background .... Obviously if the former owner say's it's there then it must be.

Ian.

They might be replaced for all i know though, this tunic has been tampered with a lot of times so wouldn't suprise me. Was sold to me as Reichsführer SS staff tunic if memory serves me correct.

[jacquesf]

I can't see a black background .... Obviously if the former owner say's it's there then it must be.

Ian.

It there Ian, maybe time for the eye test? J

[Ian Hulley]

It there Ian, maybe time for the eye test? J

I've got the glasses mate ... maybe just time to clean the old screen

[ww2.collector]

I can't see a black background .... Obviously if the former owner say's it's there then it must be.

Ian.

I maide the black background bit mor visible

[Ian Hulley]

alright alright ... I can see it now

[rbno]

The white material in the boards is an odd weave, rarely seen in original insignia. I suspect the boards are Heer pioneer boards that someone disassembled, added phony (oversized) white infantry branch waffenfarbe to and reassembled for use in this uniform.

Al

[DonC]

Every time this thing pops up they seem to do a worse job of restoration/fakery...

Don

[Graham G]

Even on my phone I can see there's a clear trace of a cuff title on the left sleeve, so there definitely was one on there sometime.

[Ian Hulley]

Even on my phone I can see there's a clear trace of a cuff title on the left sleeve, so there definitely was one on there sometime.

Yeah, even I saw that

[istra63]

Disregarding as to what time the insignia was applied, this tunic exemplifies classic lines and would be what I would look for in an original of this type.