Hi G, Would post a close up of the HBT material?
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A closer picture for the cloth , front and reverse .
In the middle is the trousers late war tropical poor quality cotton darker cloth,
mint also .
They both still have this german chemical "fastener"product Persistol ,never washed .
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Owen, can I just ask, how does the SS twill differ from the standard Wehrmacht material?Originally posted by kammo man View PostComment
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Hi G, thanks for posting......that type of HBT is Atypical of the SS wraps (IMHO)
It also lacks details common w/ these pieces.
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So what do you call a "typical" SS HBT cloth for wraps ?
And what sort of common details are missing ?
The other one i know has a totally different HBT cloth .
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Hello,
I doubt HBT materials were produced specifically for heer, luft or waffen...
HBT is HBT, wool is wool, Italian gabardine, tropical cloth, all types of lining etc
were available for every factories .
I didn't heard until now a theory about a specific HBT made for waffen-ss.Comment
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hello ,
here is my first post on WAF ten years ago with the same question :
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/FORU...d.php?t=179032
I never got a correct answer but had always doubts about those tunics .
my conclusion was to consider it as fake
Here was it (the same as showed now ?)
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I recently found someone with a reproduction heer tunic same exact HB material. Workmanship was exceptional, even had markings...and pants....so I agree...there are some really good tailors out there making this kind of stuff...Comment
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Your conclusion was correct....(imho)Originally posted by clint-magnum View Posthello ,
here is my first post on WAF ten years ago with the same question :
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/FORU...d.php?t=179032
I never got a correct answer but had always doubts about those tunics .
my conclusion was to consider it as fake
Here was it (the same as showed now ?)
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Weather its the pea pattern/oak leaf/field grey wrap they show the sameOriginally posted by GAMS1 View Post
characteristics... imho the problems are obvious.
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Ok why not ...so what are the obvious characteristics of this special HBT cloth used for every kind of WSS HBT pieces of clothing ?
I've had many pieces of WSS HBT clothing on hands for the last 40 years and i still own some , but i only noticed so many variations of HBT cloth used ?
Do you think they produced especially an HBT cloth for each part of the armed forces ? WH LW WSS KM ? and supplied only to them ?
Regarding the green HBT Pz jacket , which details brings you to the conclusion they are repro ? Not that "obvious" for many of us ... ?
Unless we do only have 2 very similar mint jackets ?
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HBT remains HBT in any case.(with a typical outside and inside)Originally posted by GAMS1 View Post
by this one , I believe to remember the fabric to be very thin,
when compare with a dot wrap . Also the button holes were different .
the missing markings is very strange by the same way.Comment
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HBT does exist in various pattern , poor or good quality .
A thin quality will be typical for late war as the cotton fields are "gone" and linen
is a good replacement ?
Those jackets were produced until the DOT came "on the market", spring 44 ?
No markings is not a big deal for WSS items and i prefer to have no markings as "nice"
markings ?
Look at the WSS tropical jackets for example : sometimes in a nice heavy cotton and then a very light shirt poor quality cotton ?
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Food for thoughts.
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