SS uniform grouping for review

[Robert H]

super find in visors and tunics, so now lets get the price up

[NickG]

Wow what a nice find...Too bad the tunics were denazified but not all the caps! What an amazing group!!
The M41 combat tunic with 2 step liner (more proof of this theory) is really sweet. The open neck tunic with collar piping is also amazing!

The officer probably served (and had his residence) in colder areas where these woolen tunics allowed for extra warmth so preferring these
over smoother officer quality gabardine...or he just liked the combat look of courser wool garments!
and the group comes with infantry piped pants even!! Also tailored in course wool. Pretty unique!!!

It is researchable as a name appears in one of the visors!

HANS OTTO GOKE (spelling??? perhaps 2 dots on the O = Goeke)

[jotuntroll]

All items looks 100% original. Congrats a lot.

I sure am wondering wich cufftitle that where on the uniform.

[butschekantiques]

Hi Nick,

it is Hans Otto Gerke.

We have done some research on him already. Im having lots of PMs and Emails on his unit so I thought about sharing a picture of his CV here.

It does not say a unit there but he writes that he plans to do his military duty with SS-Leibstandarte "Adolf Hitler".
Hope this helps.

[markus]

No information from where this group came from where this man actually served?
There must have been something from the family..?

In 1939 any kid wanted to serve with the "LSSAH," being the most popular unit known in the Reich.

There are no traces of cyphers on the shoulderboards of the UStuf walking-out tunic, so LAH can most probably be excluded from the list IMO.

Cheers,
Markus

[leib1]

Gerke, Hans-Otto
d.o.b. 5.12.20 Drebber
Strm. 9./Inf.Rgt.11 8.41
St.OJ. Stab,Pz.GR.40 12.43
†20.12.43
source John P Moore's Ecellent Führer List

[markus]

Thanks for the info "Leib 1".

So his last unit was part of 18. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division "Horst Wessel."

Unit/Cufftitle question solved.

Markus

[butschekantiques]

Thanks Leib1!

[Dr. Strangelove]

Fragen

Thanks for the info "Leib 1".

So his last unit was part of 18. SS-Freiwilligen-Panzergrenadier-Division "Horst Wessel."

Unit/Cufftitle question solved.

Markus

Cuff-title Question solved? Not for me, Horst Wessel was formed after he died.

And, uhhhh why is he listed by John Moore as a Standartenoberjuncker?

[Fritz]

Cuff-title Question solved? Not for me, Horst Wessel was formed after he died.

And, uhhhh why is he listed by John Moore as a Standartenoberjuncker?

VT-cut field grey officer's tunic for a man that was promoted to Standartenoberjunker (highest NCO rank) in late 43 (almost 44)..."Scarce" I woud say.

Would be great if that grouping was legit! Questions raised by Herr Dr. are valid though IMO.

Cheers

[Dr. Strangelove]

if

If he was really part of the 40th Panzer Grenadier Regiment then the questions becomes what Units was the 40th built from….here we go!!! I am grabbing some Coffee.

[bbeck]

Question

Just to clarify what you are saying, the boards on that tunic would not be correct for that rank, for that person...correct? Or am I missing something?
Thanks

[codytrcollector]

And the grouping is valued at almost 25,000 dollars with 10plus hours to go.....

[Scott A. Hess]

One concern for me already mentioned why would family go to the trouble of carefully removing insignia, lots of traces of black thread and not pull off visor insignia? Comes off in a snap, taking off insignia requires effort if you don't want to damage the jacket (mainly speaking of the M40) Additionally custom tailored pants are odd to have no signs of use esp if he lived up till 43' I could see if made early and the soldier was killed quite recently after ordered, which calls into question when they were made, both assumeably from same Prague tailor, so did he order two pairs of pants get fitted and was killed within weeks, pants shipped to his parents?just puzzling. Wish I could afford to bid to win still for me issues.

[butschekantiques]

It says he was a SS-Untersturmführer in one of the period time documents which I have on file.