Reichsfuhrung SS Cuff Title Help

[Daniel Griffin]

Hello,
These rather fuzzy photos were sent to me, can you tell if this CT is good or bad?
Thanks very much for your help, Dan

[Daniel Griffin]

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[herrgeezer]

Hello Dan. IMO this is not an original Waffen-SS cuff title. I could only find a couple of examples of this cuff title on which to base my opinion, but based on those few examples, I find this one is very crude in construction and the letters are very different in shape and spacing compared to the few examples I found.

[JoeW]

Although I think it crude also, this isn't supposed to be a Waffen SS CT. Doesn't it denote the command office of the SS-Himmler's staff office?

[Arran]

In my opinion this IS a good cufftitle.

[EiSVOGEL']

I also think this one has good chance to be a good one!

[HowardC]

SS title

Perhaps this might help. This is the title on my uniform. I can't show the opposite side but maybe this view can help out.

[herrgeezer]

As I posted I tried to base my opinion on examples that I could find. I appreciate other's that are better qualified to shared their opinions. One of the examples that I looked at is the very one seen on HowardC's tunic posted above (very nice M43 BTW!)

While not a Waffen-SS cuff title in the sense of a divisional title, i.e. Adolf Hitler or Das Reich, etc., Himmler's office was restructured in late 1939 after the outbreak of the war and, from what I understand, this cuff title was created for that restructure. It appears on field gray service uniforms of Waffen-SS personal working within the confines of the office's under Himmler's control, so IMO it can be considers as such.

[JoeW]

As I posted I tried to base my opinion on examples that I could find. I appreciate other's that are better qualified to shared their opinions. One of the examples that I looked at is the very one seen on HowardC's tunic posted above (very nice M43 BTW!)

While not a Waffen-SS cuff title in the sense of a divisional title, i.e. Adolf Hitler or Das Reich, etc., Himmler's office was restructured in late 1939 after the outbreak of the war and, from what I understand, this cuff title was created for that restructure. It appears on field gray service uniforms of Waffen-SS personal working within the confines of the office's under Himmler's control, so IMO it can be considers as such.

Sorry if I confused the issue with my comment. I wanted to learn about the use of these CTs so I looked into my Mollo Vol. 7 "Waffen SS Badges & Unit Distinctions" for an answer. The Reichsfuhrung SS CT was introduced in May 1940 for all ranks on the staff of the SS-Hauptamt and all other Hauptamter in place of CTs with names of particular SS Main offices. So yours would have been used in place of the SS-Fuhrungsamt. The CTs are found hand embroidered and machine woven.