Markings on SS Stug wrapper.

[Honor]

One wrap is Heer the other one is SS but it shouldn't really matter as burlap is burlap and usually consistent from garment to garment. Below is one more example of burlap material from another SS wrap, as a matter of fact, two slightly different burlap materials sewed together and used in one wrap.

[viva_giulio]

this is a "7" marked wrap.
Passed as original.
I really saw no difference from other different marked.

[viva_giulio]

better: all 7 marked are considered original.

[ccnrecon]

Was the wrap that started the thread sold by kai Winkler?

[Honor]

W.A.forum member, a very experienced collector and my friend just PMed me and pointed out that original German wraps always have waist-adjustment tresses made of only one and always the same type of material with the "/\" pattern (of course of differnet colors). Below is the tress of the wrap in question with two original examples (SS wraps).

[Honor]

this is a "7" marked wrap.
Passed as original.
I really saw no difference from other different marked.

Yes, definitely, it is the same burlap as in the wrap that started this thread. What waist-adjustment tress does it have, same as this one too? Do you have pictures of button holes on front lapels?

[viva_giulio]

W.A.forum member, a very experienced collector and my friend just PMed me and pointed out that original German wraps always have waist-adjustment tresses made of only one and always the same type of material with the "/\" pattern (of course of differnet colors). Below is the tress of the wrap in question with two original examples (SS wraps).

yes, good point... untill i saw a 7 wrap with similar waist adjustment.

i'm not against you... i'm reporting my studies.

[viva_giulio]

...i don't understand why people send pm to other... and doesn't write.
there isn't a battle and 2 sides!

[viva_giulio]

just to point: the wrap started the topic has 4 waist holes... quite all htb has 5 (7 has 4).
the waist loop usually isn't closed at bottom. here yes.
All htb late wraps has loops for shoulder boards, font of numbers are different from others... but i really see many fonts with different sizes.
I see also betr.ra. fonts without any other stamps (depot or names) but also mixed stamps.
the pic. n1 doesn't show on the right the typicall sewing (at the border of pocket lining) as "<"

[Honor]

I am not sure if I understand correctly everything that you are saying. Is the betr.ra. wrap that started this thread identical to the "7"-marked wrap that you posted? did i understand it correctly that tresses and burlap in them are the same? Is the "7" marked wrap in your possession? If so can you post pictures of button holes(in front lapels)?

[viva_giulio]

Of course not, is different in little details also from other 7 or 5/525 or 22 or unmarked or betr.ra.

[galizien41]

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[Honor]

Of course not, is different in little details also from other 7 or 5/525 or 22 or unmarked or betr.ra.

Thank you, I am with a small screen right now until tomorrow but cannot wait so can you tell me please do you personally like these button holes? Do you find them consistent with button holes in another original garments? pS please post from other side too, preferably close-ups, I wanna see if there are threads/pieces of burlap material in the button holes embroidery.

[viva_giulio]

Sincerely not but it's a 7... So desiderable. Tomorrow i will search ot
her pi
cs but i don't remember to have seen these details. But i see what you said in other wraps

[Honor]

Ok, tomorrow I will post an example of a button hole that I consider as standard for original wraps.