Black, ss hat > determination!

[Kanalhose]

Insignia are both M1/52 and nice original examples. Cap is also a nice original example, but the "aluminum" insignia seems out of place for that visor.

the eagle is a M1/72 Fritz Zimmermann Stuttgard and no Deschler! ...

[TonyS]

Could someone please be so kind and explain
-when and what material was used for the skull/eagle?!
- if a cap is untouched, should the insignias be from the same metal ? Did they come like a pair?


Cheers
Emil

From what I've seen mostly they don't seem to be matched by manufacturer or by material.

I could be wrong but I doubt the cap makers cared too much as long as they had sufficient supply to complete their orders.

[PMan]

Insignia

the eagle is a M1/72 Fritz Zimmermann Stuttgard and no Deschler! ...

That makes the presence of this cap set even more odd for this cap. Especially from era (time frame) when it was made.

[Kanalhose]

That makes the presence of this cap set even more odd for this cap. Especially from era (time frame) when it was made.

I respect your opinion ... but do not share it, because it is just pure speculation, or were they in the production of this

kindest regards Olaf

[Dennis J]

I respect your opinion ... but do not share it, because it is just pure speculation, or were they in the production of this

kindest regards Olaf

Who are you to tell a fellow forum member "do not share your opinion"....man get a life.

Dennis J

[viva_giulio]

questioning about set is limited... for sure we would expect a cupal ones but i really don't care to find alluminium also if mismatched.
The value of visor is firm and also the relative scarcity.
by the way the observation on insignad has foundation and it's right for a skilled forum, by the way it's not so important or rilevant

[Pascal Bernhard]

questioning about set is limited... for sure we would expect a cupal ones but i really don't care to find alluminium also if mismatched.
The value of visor is firm and also the relative scarcity.
by the way the observation on insigna has foundation and it's right for a skilled forum, by the way it's not so important or rilevant

The cap is original, the insignia too and in a great condition, what do you need more nowadays ...

[viva_giulio]

The cap is original, the insignia too and in a great condition, what do you need more nowadays ...

money and a live market... it seems really impossible to sell something without giving an items to a merchant!
and is not possible, at least for me, to upgrade collection without some selling.

[beufighter]

I would'nt say that... be patient... and buy the right one...

screen saver time those are some beutys

[Erik]

Who are you to tell a fellow forum member "do not share your opinion"....man get a life.

Dennis J

Jeezz relax, Olaf means he does not share, as in has the same, opinion as Peter does. He does not imply that Peter is not entitled to share his thoughts with the rest of the community.

Erik

[BrianK]

money and a live market... it seems really impossible to sell something without giving an items to a merchant!
and is not possible, at least for me, to upgrade collection without some selling.

I agree 100% - It is hard to change directions within your collection without selling something.

[Robert H]

its not a speculation, it's experience and the same experience as mine.

I respect your opinion ... but do not share it, because it is just pure speculation, or were they in the production of this

kindest regards Olaf

[PMan]

Cap

I respect your opinion ... but do not share it, because it is just pure speculation, or were they in the production of this

kindest regards Olaf

If you are ok with a hodgepodge of insignia from different makers, metal composition and time periods then the cap is a beautiful thing.

[Kanalhose]

If you are ok with a hodgepodge of insignia from different makers, metal composition and time periods then the cap is a beautiful thing.

as I said ... they are not the benchmark for me, because I do not believe anything they have ever picked up directly from the user or household will pick :-) ... I do not know if they have ever read my posts carefully ... I wrote that the cost of the cap were about as high as a 1939 Iron Cross Second Class, they tell me a rational reason why and who should be tinkering with the cap

[Robert H]

rest is a story that only you know, be polite

also one input from my own experience, knowledge about facts is quite low in the German collector scene with material like this cap or most other SS material.