fake SS-TOTENKOPF OFFICER'S tab on E-stand?

[Robert H]

the whole embroidery on the sleeve eagle and the skull tab is wrong, just compare the embroidery to original examples. Then you see also what quality means.

[Felix]

Hmmm how did you come across these if I may ask ? The Eagles are correct in style but appear to be constructed in a fashion unlike originals more than likely no template underneath the bullion and done using a computer generated patern. I defer to Felix who has earned his credibility in SS insignias through long hard study of original pieces...Felix what your opinion of these?

Jpic, I would not want any of these eagles. They are just not on par with originals. Sterile, lacking the quality touch of war time skilled embroiderers. We know that unterlagens has been used on fakes quite many years now. I think it is important to compare with known patterns and this is where the difference is.


Cheers
//Felix

[sgstandard]

Totenkopf Officer's Tab

In reference to the Totenkopf officer's tab pic in post #15: "I don't like it."

[Michael Fay]

"....On the SS forum it is a brutal environment and items posted can be viewed as trash and even worse with following not so kind comments..."
//Felix

RKC, I understand why you are not pleased, but as Felix said above, SS forum is brutal. But is has to be due to the level of the problem of fakes.

I want to point out that, in actuality, this threads' postings are rather polite and benign when compared to many other threads on this SS forum.

[sgstandard]

Tab

The original question that started the thread, was "What is your opinion on this TK tab?" The first six replies, all by knowledgable members, had the same unambiguous opinion that it sucked. Had the members all said it was an obvious original, their opinions wouldn't have been questioned, and the sun would still be shining. Alas, it ISN'T an original, so the replies are now "UNINTELLIGENT". I am far from an SS cloth expert, but I noticed immediately that it didn't look right. That's why I said, "I don't like it." And six red-flags in a row suggests you're headed in the wrong direction.

[BrianK]

A fellow member Mark Edward has an officer TK for sale. Mark's tab is without a doubt 100% original. All proper materials and stitching. I could go on with other references, but i feel it just may upset you. Sorry dude.

Taking a stab in the dark - I like this one #10 - and if I had the money I'd buy it.

[viva_giulio]

sorry but tab and first eagle are fakes: easy to recognize.
the second eagle is also bad but could fool.

[PMan]

Tab

Taking a stab in the dark - I like this one #10 - and if I had the money I'd buy it.

That's because it's an original example and not part of the subject insignia group.

[BrianK]

Yes, I can see a big quality difference. If it was on e-stand it must have sold because I can't find it there; I know it was in this thread for comparison's sake.

[PMan]

Tab

Yes, I can see a big quality difference.

Oh yes!!

[RKC]

Felix/Guys:


Thanks for the time you put into those pieces. When they were picked-up in the 80's & 90's they weren't a lot of money as they are now-a-days & dealing with the various guys then, you looked the piece over & if you liked it you made the trade or bought it.

I just felt there were nonchalant views given & not anything that pointed to the actual differences that stand out between the good piece & bad piece & with that impression I just lashed out at "what I perceived" to be laziness from you guys.

I'm sorry it worked out that way.

Ron Coulson

[PMan]

Insignia

Felix/Guys:


Thanks for the time you put into those pieces. When they were picked-up in the 80's & 90's they weren't a lot of money as they are now-a-days & dealing with the various guys then, you looked the piece over & if you liked it you made the trade or bought it.

I just felt there were nonchalant views given & not anything that pointed to the actual differences that stand out between the good piece & bad piece & with that impression I just lashed out at "what I perceived" to be laziness from you guys.

I'm sorry it worked out that way.

Ron Coulson

Ron,
Perhaps you can take the time to show us why they are real. I remain totally open minded and look forward to what you have to say.
Peter

[Felix]

Felix/Guys:


Thanks for the time you put into those pieces. When they were picked-up in the 80's & 90's they weren't a lot of money as they are now-a-days & dealing with the various guys then, you looked the piece over & if you liked it you made the trade or bought it.

I just felt there were nonchalant views given & not anything that pointed to the actual differences that stand out between the good piece & bad piece & with that impression I just lashed out at "what I perceived" to be laziness from you guys.

I'm sorry it worked out that way.

Ron Coulson

No problems man! This forum is a very good place to get to know what you want. I will be glad to help in the future!

Cheers
//Felix