SS Schule Tolz Table Lamp

[vonStubben]

I saw this today in an antique shop and really don't know what to make of it so I need some opinions.

The shade is enameled metal and the eagle and inscription are incused. I had to have been made this way or the insignia if stamped into it at a later date would have caused the enamel to crack or chip.

Thr vertical arm is adjustable and the base is solid cast iron.

Opinions please.

Thanks,

Chuck

[vonStubben]

RATS! I just realized I posted this in the wrong section.

Would the moderator please move it to the SS section.

Thanks!

Chuck

PS: Found this on line:

http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...ampe&FORM=IGRE

[PMan]

Lamp

Junk.

[vonStubben]

Junk.

I think so too but can only figure that they may have sand blasted it or something like that in order to get the eagle and wording to cut through the enamel.

I'm vexed at how they did it?

[Gary Symonds]

Maybe, just maybe it is real. I've never heard of Horax, but based on the link, it was and is a real manufacturer.

I can't imagine any faker making such a lamp. Why Schule Tolz? That is far too obscure. Where would the market be for this lamp? Far too small to justify the labor and manufacture.

Is it out of the question that the Schule could have ordered these lamps for the students and future SS officers? It looks too well made. Where are the others?

I think it has a chance.

[C. Betz]

Lamp

A red SS eagle & SS Schule Tolz? I don't think so. Fantasy piece.

Charles Betz

[Matthew]

I'm vexed at how they did it?

Put a sticker of an eagle on a red lamp. Paint it green. Peel the sticker.

cheers
Matt

[Michael Fay]

Put a sticker of an eagle on a red lamp. Paint it green. Peel the sticker.

cheers
Matt

Sounds plausible. For what it is worth, I see a chipped off piece (of enamel paint?) at the bottom of the metal lamp shade in line with the A and X in HORAX. That chipped paint area/damage has been painted over with the green paint.
This implies a re-painting.

[Ian Hulley]

Typical old item tarted up with bogus SS name of choice and repainted in smooth Hammerite.

Not a prayer

I can't imagine any faker making such a lamp. Why Schule Tolz? That is far too obscure. Where would the market be for this lamp? Far too small to justify the labor and manufacture.

The Junkerschule are not obscure, in fact quite sought after and I should imagine there is a very 'healthy' market for such attributed items amongst the hard of thinking.

Ian

[Steve T]

Without the SS bit, quite a collectable old bankers lamp. Typical green colour for these. Do a scratch test with a pin on the green and then on the white inside. Vitreous enamel is scratch resistant, at least very hard to scratch hence its great for kitchenware etc, regular paint and smooth hammerite etc will scratch.

[vonStubben]

Without the SS bit, quite a collectable old bankers lamp. Typical green colour for these. Do a scratch test with a pin on the green and then on the white inside. Vitreous enamel is scratch resistant, at least very hard to scratch hence its great for kitchenware etc, regular paint and smooth hammerite etc will scratch.

The eagle and script is deeply etched into the enamel, it has not been painted over using a template and will not scratch. The chip along the bottom edge shows the underlying metal of the shade. The picture of that area does not show well in the photo but it has not been (re) painted over. The shade has not been "repainted" either, the enamel is original and apparently "as manufactured" by the maker. I have a hard time believing in it but stand by the credo "never say never", unless absolutely proven otherwise.

[Steve T]

The eagle and script is deeply etched into the enamel, it has not been painted over using a template and will not scratch. The chip along the bottom edge shows the underlying metal of the shade. The picture of that area does not show well in the photo but it has not been (re) painted over. The shade has not been "repainted" either, the enamel is original and apparently "as manufactured" by the maker. I have a hard time believing in it but stand by the credo "never say never", unless absolutely proven otherwise.

I thought it looked like proper enamel, just like other lamps of this type. No idea when or how the SS bit got there though!

[Ludwig]

Doesn´t look very German or SS at all, to me.

[Steve T]

Doesn´t look very German or SS at all, to me.

German lamp. Lots of them around. Often found in art deco shops, always on Ebay...some made in Belgium too.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lichtte...hneider_%26_Co

[vonStubben]

Even though I believe in the credo of "never say never" I'm certainly not going to purchase it (especially at $550.00)!, especially if no one else has ever seen or heard of such an item before. I was just hoping someone could figure out how this was accomplished without disturbing the surrounding enamel. IF, it's actually real it sure would be something different.