Two Bullion Eagles

[Felix]

To chime in, I also reacted on the odd gause weave of the reverse, and on both eagles.

Manzies eagle is nothing like these and should not be used for comparisons here.

I prefer this style of eagle closer to the well known version of this style of eagle, often shown on this forum and also in Angolias book. There exists versions of course, but I would not personally prefer them to be too wild. These eagles are usually pre war eagles and in some cases with the matching cloth rzm tag. I have never seen this "style" with a paper tag before.

I dont think I would have bought them, unless from a super solid vet source.

Arran;

How can you tell they have the same unterlagen as the later rzm bullion eagles?

Cheers
//Felix

[Arran]

Arran;

How can you tell they have the same unterlagen as the later rzm bullion eagles?

Cheers
//Felix

Because I have examined an example of this type of eagle that was so badly corroded and rotten that certain details of the unterlagen were visible. I always keep an un-used example of an unterlagen to use for comparison purposes...

[Felix]

Because I have examined an example of this type of eagle that was so badly corroded and rotten that certain details of the unterlagen were visible. I always keep an un-used example of an unterlagen to use for comparison purposes...

Thats a luxury few of us have. I have seen a few loose unterlagens for sale.
However when "matched" against actual eagles it is sometimes hard to believe they all used the same unterlagen. I would not dismiss that there did exist a different unterlagen. One should keep in mind that a number of embroidering firms made these eagles. If all used the same, well, possible, but I think more than one pattern of unterlagen was used. One can compare with the so called Karl Wolff style eagle, and it uses an unterlagen as well.

Just my observations and thoughts.

Cheers
//Felix

[RobertE]

Here's some better views of the eagle front -

[RobertE]

Reverses - the wing feather lines lack thread, but are very nicely executed.

regards, Robert

[istra63]

If these are apparently meant to resemble an early war eagle, then the execution of embroidery should be more precise.
Also the wings seem to be too narrow for my liking.