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**Flecktarn** · 12-09-2011, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by Obergruppen2 View Post

I have a lot od period pics but i think it was only the shoulder boards worn, will try and dig them out and post them when i do

Thanks man!

**Death-Ace** · 12-09-2011, 07:31 PM

There's a photo floating around the internet of a couple dozen (Platoon?) Handschar men in these shirts or other service shirts. There are some wearing the eagle and shield and I believe a Sturmann or Rottenfuhrer weaing both AND the chevron. I'm not sure about ribbon bars.

Blue Skies of Thunderbolts,
Lev

**Flecktarn** · 12-10-2011, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by Death-Ace View Post

There's a photo floating around the internet of a couple dozen (Platoon?) Handschar men in these shirts or other service shirts. There are some wearing the eagle and shield and I believe a Sturmann or Rottenfuhrer weaing both AND the chevron. I'm not sure about ribbon bars.

Blue Skies of Thunderbolts,
Lev

That sounds perfect, does anyone have this photo on his pc?

**Obergruppen2** · 12-10-2011, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Flecktarn View Post

That sounds perfect, does anyone have this photo on his pc?

Here are men from the 13.SS-Gebirgs-Division " Handschar " wearing shirts but i only see shoulder boards !

**Flecktarn** · 12-10-2011, 05:00 PM

Thanks for posting the photo of the Handschar divison! Seems they're not really waering the sahariana tropical shirt, but they're indeed only wearing the shoulderboards.
On the other few photo's I found of the SS sahariana shirt being worn, they only wear the boards too. So I assume we can say they didn't wear the eagle and chevrons per regulations on the shirt? Otherwise there would be (more) photoproof on that?

However, should anyone have an original photo or shariana shirt in his collection with the eagle/chevron on the sleeve, I would be very thankfull to see it!

Cheers, Fleck!

**Flecktarn** · 12-10-2011, 05:21 PM

Here's another nice photo of Waffen-SS soldiers wearing the sahariana shirt. Was for sale on eBay some time ago, don't know who the current owner is though...

Seems they're only wearing the shoulderboards as well:

Fleck!

**Johnny R** · 12-10-2011, 05:27 PM

This is another example-The "loops" for the boards are wider and longer, some of these I think were Italian made.

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**Obergruppen2** · 12-10-2011, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Flecktarn View Post

Guys,

Could you help me out on this? The shown Waffen-SS Sahariana Tropenhemd was sold at 'Third Reich Depot'. It does have a machine sewn tropical sleeveagle and a tropical chevron on the left sleeve.

Is this an original shirt and were those insignia indeed worn on the SS Saharia Tropenhemd?

It's described as:

''Waffen-SS Tropical "Sahariana" Shirt for a Sturmmann in the Infantry. (Tropenhemd) Even though the Waffen-SS served in tropical regions of the Balkans, Greece, and southern Russia as early as 1941 tropical clothing wasn't produced until 1943. One of the most unique clothing items introduced was the "Sahariana" style shirt that was based on the Italian bush tunic. This near mint and possibly unissued shirt is constructed from tropical tan ribbed cotton. It features a four button front closure plaquet and a lay down collar. The collar is backed in a lighter weight linen with a scalloped tip and single button at the back. There are 2 pleated breast pockets below a scalloped shoulder yolk that covers the back as well. The front scalloped tips function as button down closure flaps for the breast pockets. The shoulder yoke also features 2 tunnel loops for each shoulder strap with 2 field gray pebbled zinc buttons. The infantry piped straps are so mint that I feared they may be reproductions but they appear to be constructed from period wool and sewn with 100% cotton thread (burn tested). The left sleeve features a BeVo tropical eagle and a single tropical tress stripe rank chevron. All 8 of the original tan "glass" type buttons are still intact. It does not appear as though there was ever a button sewn beneath the scalloped collar on the reverse, although there is a button hole. Over all a mint beauty with no stamps or markings other than a small "52(?)" in black ink at the neck.''

Here are the pictures: http://65.160.172.250/ss/ss776.html

Thanks a lot in advance, cheers,

Fleck!

If i was you i would save my money and buy a real item from a respected dealer and btw, the sleave eagle and chevrons were not worn on shirts but on Sahariana tunics

**Ian Hulley** · 12-10-2011, 05:43 PM

I can't comment on sahariana shirts specifically but there are photos of SS mountain troops wearing shirt sleeve order with the same system as the camouflage system with horizontal bars and oakleafs.

Ian

**Johnny R** · 12-10-2011, 05:46 PM

My shirt never had an arm eagle or any other visible signs of sew on insignia but is heavily used and repaired.

**Death-Ace** · 12-10-2011, 10:50 PM

Originally posted by Obergruppen2 View Post

Here are men from the 13.SS-Gebirgs-Division " Handschar " wearing shirts but i only see shoulder boards !

Hmm, that's weird. Perhaps I saw it on another photo! Will keep searching.

Blue Skies of Thunderbolts,
Lev

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