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    #1

    Panzer wrapper lining

    What to think about this HBT wrappers liner?

    Is this the kind of liner normally found in these wrappers?

    Thxs for your help
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      #3
      As far as I know, this is typical but wait for more qualified options.

      kind regards,
      Salvatore

      ps also stamps seems typical

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        #4
        Firstly: the shape of the digits is'nt match the SS BW production

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          Panzer wrapper lining

          Originally posted by espenlaub View Post
          Firstly: the shape of the digits is'nt match the SS BW production
          Do you mean all SS-contracted clothing factories used the same style of stamps for the numbering of the sizes, or is the style of the digits used in this stamp non-existing for BW?

          I searched some other stamps. This one for example, has a totally different style.

          http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/images/108u3-1.jpg.

          And secondly?

          I will put some additional pictures of the construction of the jacket. Perhaps this will answer your second remark.

          Regards
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            Panzer wrapper

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                Originally posted by Excelsior View Post
                This one for example, has a totally different style.

                http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/images/108u3-1.jpg.
                I wouldn't go using that site as a point of reference if I were you

                Ian

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                  Hello Excelsior,

                  Silver/gray HBT lining is used in some original and in some fake wraps. The lining material use by itself does not give us an answer either way. In this photo you show the inside of the cuff where it buttons, could you show us a straight on shot of the outside of the cuff? Also when showing markings like the SS-BW and size markings, it really helps if the shots are looking straight on. Photos taken at angles distort any markings, sometimes making comparisons difficult or impossible.

                  So far the wrap does not look promising for many reasons. How about some insignia shots?

                  Richard
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                    #10
                    The SS BW factory uses Reece roundhole machines for the belt support hooks, and they are allways chain stitched. Even a tunic construction made with a care and professionally, there some mistakes in construction and technologies, but this is my opinion only

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                      Originally posted by Richard P View Post
                      Hello Excelsior,

                      So far the wrap does not look promising for many reasons.
                      Richard
                      Agree.
                      Luca
                      Siam fatti cosi!

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                        #12
                        The button on the cuff looks good

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                          Originally posted by Richard P View Post
                          Hello Excelsior,

                          Silver/gray HBT lining is used in some original and in some fake wraps. The lining material use by itself does not give us an answer either way. In this photo you show the inside of the cuff where it buttons, could you show us a straight on shot of the outside of the cuff? Also when showing markings like the SS-BW and size markings, it really helps if the shots are looking straight on. Photos taken at angles distort any markings, sometimes making comparisons difficult or impossible.

                          So far the wrap does not look promising for many reasons. How about some insignia shots?

                          Unfortunately these are the only pics I have, so for the time these must do. But thx for your remarks!

                          Richard
                          Originally posted by espenlaub View Post
                          The SS BW factory uses Reece roundhole machines for the belt support hooks, and they are allways chain stitched. Even a tunic construction made with a care and professionally, there some mistakes in construction and technologies, but this is my opinion only
                          Espenlaub, what do you mean by Reece roundhole machines? These aren't and not chain stitched? I can see the connection wire uncut. Thx for you remark.

                          Originally posted by Scott A. Hess View Post
                          The button on the cuff looks good
                          So, that's some good news to start with.

                          Hereby some additional pics I have received.

                          Regards
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                            Some additional pics of collar
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                              Hereby some better pictures of the stamping.

                              Ink of the BW and size is not the same, which IMO is a good sign.

                              Also better pics of the sleeve, isignias and buttn hole stitching.

                              Shouldeboards were in the pockets and have been reattached. Old stitching still on the collar boards.

                              Regards
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