What do I do? Advise on a Totenkopf officer coat.

[Marc verstraete]

No-one else with an opinion????? Tony, Pieter, Bob, Garry ???

Marc

[junior]

Funny skull

[junior]

It's the first time I see a skull like that; is it for officers or something?

[Hardigan]

Hello Marc

I would like to see the liner, buttonholes , buttons etc.. to judge the mantel !
I think the deathshead is a very good copy , the rankpatch is the same one with new stars on it and has a very strange stripe !
I also don't like the cuffband !
But if you look from a distand it looks very nice and original !

[CurtD]

Well, I don't know much about the other stuff, but I think the armband looks perfect.

[bnz. 42]

Another proof that they had the beautiful uniform
P.S. Still don't know if is original

[Robin Lumsden]

Remember the old sayings........

"If in doubt, leave it out"..........

"If in doubt, don't".......... etc. etc.

There seems to be a lot of doubt with this particular item.

[Marc verstraete]

Remember the old sayings........

"If in doubt, leave it out"..........

"If in doubt, don't".......... etc. etc.

There seems to be a lot of doubt with this particular item.

Thank you Robin for your help, I REALY apreciate!
I posted my definitive answer on this matter on the "other" forum.

Go To:

http://daggers.infopop.net/2/OpenTop...71&m=242100911

Marc

[Robin Lumsden]

Marc.

No problem.

Regards,

Robin.

[Robert H]

Hi Marc,

I don´t trust this coat. I believe the scull tab isn´t original, and the rank tab with this kinda pins either. The cufftitle when original (what I don´t think) would never woven on an officer great coat in this lousy way. An original SS TK officer black great coat untouched would be very very rar and would have an market price for sure not under 5k. About prices for "original" insignias, a mint cufftitle from Thüringen would be around 1500 Euro, the tabs around the same price, an armand labeled with a black silk label maybe 400 Euro, the shoulder board as yours 200 Euro.
Over all I hope that helps you.

[Gary Wood]

Marc,
I understand that you have sent this coat back now so further comments will be redundant I think but I would have also like to see better pictures of the coat, I.E and labels, were the buttons RZM/ss marked ect ect,
cheers,
Gary

[JasonS]

Cufftitle

Would a RZM tag have a 37 number on it? Did they issue them in 1937 or just started to make them in 1937. I am new to cufftitles and this will be of a big help to me.

Marc.


There are a few things that make me uneasy about this coat.

1. The litzen strip on the rank tab is non-regulation.

2. The rank pips look fairly poor quality, even for aluminium.

3. The skull looks like celleon, although that could be just the light in the photo.

4. The Thueringen cuff title did not come about until 1937, while the RZM tab is dated 1936 - although again that could be a combination of old and new insignia stock.

At best, I think this has been 'tampered with', and I'd be inclined to pass on it.

Best regards,

Robin.