SS Cuffbands - A chance for us all to learn

[John Ginader]

Hi Guys.
I have four SS-Cuffbands here, but my thing is medals & Halemts not
cloth. So i have given some nice shots and if I could get some insight on
these from people who know, then we all have a chance to learn something
about one of the hard fields. Thats what the forum is for, so we can all
learn from one guys finds or mistakes.
Here is the first band for discussion: Der Fuhrer officers flatwire-woven
with tags on the back.

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[pimpf]

Hi john !

Hm ... interesting example. All the flatwire bands I have ever seen or own had the "salt and pepper" backing. I do not like the letters on Your cuff band: wire type and direction (looks like slash / but must be from top to down). I would walk away from this cuff title. Hope other members correct me if I wrong.


Regards,
Alex

[John Ginader]

Second Cuffband is the Reichsfuhrer-SS Machine-woven Bevo Wuppertal,
with the round umlauts over the u.

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[John Ginader]

Third SS Cuffband: Hitlerjugend:

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[John Ginader]

Last one the Totenkopf:


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[pimpf]

The "Hitlrejugend" does not look good for me (border inside looks wrong, but may be just a photo) as well as "Oberbayern" (scull misshaped).

[Ian Hulley]

John, 'Hitlerjugend' wasn't produced in BeVo...only Bevo-like...sorry.Ugly Oberbayern. Combination of paper & cloth tags..?..I'll learn something on this one too....but I'm dubious. I can't comment on the RF-SS..There's nothing obvious from what I see..(not that that says much with BeVo bands.

Sorry,

Ian Hulley.

[Bob Hritz]

The bevo Hitlerjugend: Fake, currently made and available. Hitlerjugend in block letters is a bevo like band, not BeVo-Wuppertal made.

The Der Fuhrer: This is hand embroidered, not flatwire. Why there is a stitched piece of material over the reverse to simulate flatwire type is unknown, but would leave me wanting to pass on it.

The Reichsfuhrer-SS: Looks fine

The Oberbayern (skull) : There are 3 distinct, slightly different, types i have seen. This looks difrferent from accepted types.

Bob Hritz

[Gary Wood]

Ditto to what Bob has said, i also do not like the band weave on the DF and the TK title, sorry

Gary

[Tony Barto]

I third Bob's opinions. The Oberbayern looks like the one that clown Heydrich has been trying to sell on epier forever.

[John Ginader]

Thanks Guys, now this is what the forum is for, a chance for us
all to learn. I feel I'm learning more about sleeve bands and cloth
items. this is a great way to share knowledge with each other.
If anyone else has more info about these sleeve band, I sure we
would all like to share in the knowledge /or information.

Johnny