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    #16
    Big mint unissued hats tend to be "round" when never worn. I once had a nice mint panzer em hat in size 60 and it looked round sitting on the shelf. If this SS hat was on a head, it would take on a normal shape - even the peak would rise up a bit.

    Tom

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      #17
      Originally posted by tgn View Post
      Big mint unissued hats tend to be "round" when never worn. I once had a nice mint panzer em hat in size 60 and it looked round sitting on the shelf. If this SS hat was on a head, it would take on a normal shape - even the peak would rise up a bit.

      Tom
      Well, the peak may rise up a bit with wear unless you have a Sloped forehead...but since were talking about the SS we can safely assume high Porpoise like foreheads packed with ubiquitous amounts of Grey Matter.

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        #18
        An other unissued "59" size shape example.... (CW -1939/40).

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        - somebody could he tell us the mesurements of an early SS RZM tag (see pic)

        - height of the letters "SS DIENSTMÜTZE"
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        Last edited by Pascal Bernhard; 07-20-2010, 12:52 AM.
        Straßburger / When in doubt do without...
        - Looking for : SS TK «Oberbayern» flatwire CT.

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          #19
          Originally posted by BenVK View Post
          Earlier white tags were quite large. I see no problems with it.

          Nor I.

          Here's the RZM tag in one of my SS visors, although this one dates a bit earlier than the example offered for sale on Oakleaf (which, by the way, appears to be a really great piece!)


          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=202253

          Rob
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            #20
            Thanks Rob !

            nice early "blaky" !
            Straßburger / When in doubt do without...
            - Looking for : SS TK «Oberbayern» flatwire CT.

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              #21
              thoughts about the insignia ?

              seams to be a "Deschler" made skull...
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              Straßburger / When in doubt do without...
              - Looking for : SS TK «Oberbayern» flatwire CT.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Pascal Bernhard View Post
                Thanks Rob !

                nice early "blaky" !
                Thanks!

                Rob

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                  #23
                  Cap

                  I stand corrected on the "ROUND" shape. There was just one posted on the forum that looks really round. Not worn - makes sense to me. Thanks.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
                    I stand corrected on the "ROUND" shape. There was just one posted on the forum that looks really round. Not worn - makes sense to me. Thanks.
                    Also, if you have a look at the visor in the link I posted in post #19, there is a shot taken looking head-on at the bottom of the cap and you can clearly see just how round it is.....

                    Rob

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                      #25
                      Pascal, the mesurements of the early SS RZM tag of the cap you posted pictures of are 10 cm for the lenght of the black liner (10,5 cm in total) and 4,5 cm for the width of the black liner. These indications are not accurate to the millimeter considering the difficulties to reach the tag.
                      Best,
                      François

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                        #26
                        A cap is potentialy suspicous because it's too "round" ?!

                        That's a new one on me.

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                          #27
                          Cap

                          Read my last post - I was wrong - I was probably blinded by my dislike for Allgemeine caps that are perfectly formed. As a former US Marine, I even disliked the Marine version for the same reason. As for the cap in question - I often bring up questions about items, but that doesn't always mean I feel the item is incorrect. I mention it because I'm unsure.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
                            I often bring up questions about items, but that doesn't always mean I feel the item is incorrect. I mention it because I'm unsure.
                            Me too but I think the "round" issue is a red herring. The tag on the other hand, as you pointed out, does look huge in comparison to the cap. Maybe something to be concerned about or maybe nothing. Worth investigating though IMO.

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                              #29
                              here with a better shot of the tag : the white thread does'nt glow...
                              I await dimensions of the black edge on the oak leaf cap cap tag, but seams OK for me...

                              (Thanks Zimzum77 )
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                              Last edited by Pascal Bernhard; 07-21-2010, 01:03 AM.
                              Straßburger / When in doubt do without...
                              - Looking for : SS TK «Oberbayern» flatwire CT.

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                                #30
                                TK seams repaired, => 2 different prongs...
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                                Straßburger / When in doubt do without...
                                - Looking for : SS TK «Oberbayern» flatwire CT.

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