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    GFM Manstein Order to SS Totenkopf Panzer Div

    Hi

    Greetings from Florida!

    I just picked this order up and did not think much of it then more then an informal doc.

    My Mom is a native German speaker and seen it and found it very strangely written using the word Mordkerle and the end of it saying " I have nothing more to add to this order".

    I also cannot make out who signed this, of course its not Manstein, hopefully its not Joe Blow from Newark NJ.

    Any thoughts on this?

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    #2
    The translation of basically "Bravo Totenkopf, You are asskickers" is wonderful if it is indeed real.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Johnny R View Post
      The translation of basically "Bravo Totenkopf, You are asskickers" is wonderful if it is indeed real.
      Hey Johnny,

      I figured that much of course. Iam just wondering why this is a befehl?

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      Dion
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        #4
        Hi Dion,

        This exact text is replicated in one of the early SS books - perhaps "Wenn Alle Bruder..". So I presume that it was sent - but can't comment on originality of the one presented here.

        The last sentence was, as I remember, the comment of the Division commander - which would have been Priess at the time.

        My sense is that this is a poor copy based on the text in the book - the stamp is not right and the signature, given that the Division commmander appended a line to Manstein's original document, should be Priess's and not Manstein's.

        Mike

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          Originally posted by Mike C View Post
          Hi Dion,

          This exact text is replicated in one of the early SS books - perhaps "Wenn Alle Bruder..". So I presume that it was sent - but can't comment on originality of the one presented here.

          The last sentence was, as I remember, the comment of the Division commander - which would have been Priess at the time.

          My sense is that this is a poor copy based on the text in the book - the stamp is not right and the signature, given that the Division commmander appended a line to Manstein's original document, should be Priess's and not Manstein's.

          Mike
          Hi Mike

          Brilliant input, and I mean that in the best sense and not sarcastic. The strange thing about this is it was in a group of ww2 American militaria and was not being offered in any monetary value at all. I have a connect in Florida that does not specialize in militaria whatsoever and this was about to be tossed out until I seen the paper behind a bunch of WW2 Army Air Force wings. I did notice the runes 1st off and then that the OKW stamp was a kind of different. The font and grammar is fine with me-Iam not a paper guy butwith my gut with handeling combat badge and paper from The Germans the paper has the proper aging etc..etc. I mean even the smell and tip of the tongue test passed for me. I have seen the fakes back in Germany with period paper and so on but this one passed for me,,,,you might be right but if I found this randomly as I had back home in Germany from a houseclearer, id pull the wallet out.But as you say the stamp alarmed me a bit.

          Also what alarms me is if that is the exact text being quoted, would maybe Mansteins staff had sent this out a bit more to other Divs?

          Best
          Dion
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            #6
            Whoever typed it would have been told off for abbreviating 'Panzer' as 'Panz.' instead of 'Pz.'. I would strongly doubt its originality.

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              #7
              The document is fake, sorry!

              Look at the stamp for example, typical forgery.

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                #8
                copy document,signature,stamp,writing ...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Robert H View Post
                  copy document,signature,stamp,writing ...
                  Yes Robert. Iam looking now and you guys are all correct. No great money loss but I was really hoping this was a good find. On to the next search.

                  Thanks guys,
                  Dion
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