ss-zivilabzeichen

[inimicus]

I've no pix of the back from the guy as yet. and sorry this image is so small - but does it have a chance?? thanks a lot.

[ErichS]

No way to tell from the photo that you posted.

[inimicus]

ok I'm confused. I've followed threads on ZAs and read among other things that 1) serial #s should by hand-engraved and that gahr alone used the thicker outer ring.

but the one now on the Guild by the other maker - hofstatter - has RAISED numbers - obv. put there when the pin was made. the pin in hayes' book conversely is a hofstatter but has thicker outer ring. seems questions still surround
these civilian pins.

(hmmm now looking again at the pic I posted I wonder if this is a dagger grip emblem b/c is looks too small....) will post a pic of the back if I can get one.

[inimicus]

here's the Guild's ZA:

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S020862.html

[castle]

i like the stamped letters and numbers..the one on the guild is not for me.

[inimicus]

here's one ID'd as gahr from somewhere on the net. where is that thicker outer ring??

[Seiler]

here's the Guild's ZA:

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S020862.html

That one on the Guild site (Sold! )was no good.
Seiler.

[Seiler]

No way to tell from the photo that you posted.

Agree with Erich
Seiler.

[JoeW]

The pin was called SS-Zivilabzeichen. The numbers on the back were not the purchaser's SS serial number. It was simply the consecutive number of the pin issued by the SS-Personal Amt. The number on Gahr pins was engraved, but the Hoffstatter numbers were impressed into the pin.

[inimicus]

thanks heaps, men!

[Doug Kenwright]

The pin at the web site had impressed numbers and manufacturers name.

It says so in the text.

It looks raised because the image is taken from a scan, but it is in fact not.

[inimicus]

right ken; my bad. anyhow the guy's just sold it - grrrrrr.

[JoeW]

That one on the Guild site (Sold! )was no good.
Seiler.

I agree with Seiler.

[inimicus]

thanks again all.