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    I've no pix of the back from the guy as yet. and sorry this image is so small - but does it have a chance?? thanks a lot.
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    #2
    No way to tell from the photo that you posted.

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      #3
      ok I'm confused. I've followed threads on ZAs and read among other things that 1) serial #s should by hand-engraved and that gahr alone used the thicker outer ring.

      but the one now on the Guild by the other maker - hofstatter - has RAISED numbers - obv. put there when the pin was made. the pin in hayes' book conversely is a hofstatter but has thicker outer ring. seems questions still surround
      these civilian pins.

      (hmmm now looking again at the pic I posted I wonder if this is a dagger grip emblem b/c is looks too small....) will post a pic of the back if I can get one.

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        #4
        here's the Guild's ZA:

        http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S020862.html

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          #5
          i like the stamped letters and numbers..the one on the guild is not for me.

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            #6
            here's one ID'd as gahr from somewhere on the net. where is that thicker outer ring??
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              #7
              Originally posted by inimicus View Post
              That one on the Guild site (Sold! )was no good.
              Seiler.

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                #8
                Originally posted by ErichS View Post
                No way to tell from the photo that you posted.
                Agree with Erich
                Seiler.

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                  #9
                  The pin was called SS-Zivilabzeichen. The numbers on the back were not the purchaser's SS serial number. It was simply the consecutive number of the pin issued by the SS-Personal Amt. The number on Gahr pins was engraved, but the Hoffstatter numbers were impressed into the pin.

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                    #10
                    thanks heaps, men!

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                      #11
                      The pin at the web site had impressed numbers and manufacturers name.

                      It says so in the text.

                      It looks raised because the image is taken from a scan, but it is in fact not.

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                        #12
                        right ken; my bad. anyhow the guy's just sold it - grrrrrr.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Seiler View Post
                          That one on the Guild site (Sold! )was no good.
                          Seiler.
                          I agree with Seiler.

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                            #14
                            thanks again all.

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