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**oldflagswanted** · 06-12-2010, 10:29 AM

Echoes In Eternity ???

Originally posted by Capt. R View Post

...Any Peoples who refuse to resist under such tyranny are only
meek sheep and quickly become slaves.

"What We Do In Life Echoes In Eternity..."
...from the Teutonia Forest to the Führerbunker.

**dhunter93** · 06-12-2010, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by bnz. 42 View Post

Russia is a big country and of course largest in the world, but it never had a lot of people. In 1941 only about 170 million people lived in Soviet Union. Germany had about 110. So it was far away from like 1 German against 10 Russians.
Sorry I do not have time for pointless debates. Try to read books and learn about history

Your numbers are way off.. Soviet Union 164-M (1939)--- Germany 69-M (1939). Your right in that it was not 10 to 1 however it was more than 2 to 1, and in battle the Russians used both men and woman.

P.S. if you adding in allied Countrys to come up to 110 for Germany don't forget Russias had a little help also; USA 132-M (1940) England 46-M (1940) and the list go's on and on..

**bnz. 42** · 06-12-2010, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by dhunter93 View Post

Your numbers are way off.. Soviet Union 164-M (1939)--- Germany 69-M (1939). Your right in that it was not 10 to 1 however it was more than 2 to 1, and in battle the Russians used both men and woman.

P.S. if you adding in allied Countrys to come up to 110 for Germany don't forget Russias had a little help also; USA 132-M (1940) England 46-M (1940) and the list go's on and on..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

**UnknownSoldier** · 06-12-2010, 11:32 AM

No question that but the Russians fought extremely hard & well, and that their land army ground down the majority of German fighting forces.
Lets not forget though the sole reason why Stalin was able to almost completely strip his eastern front to throw everything that he had in the fight against Hitler - Because the USA and it allies were grappling singlehandedly with the mighty Japanese Empire, and it was obvious Japan would not be able to do anything against Russia while so engaged.

Were it not for that fact, Stalin would not have been able to strip his eastern front of the forces that we so essential in replacing the massive losses he suffered in the opening months of the invasion ,, Or if he did so anyways, would have risked tempting the Japanese into a Japanese strike - Which in fact was the prime nightmare scenario for allied planners.

So while the Soviets deserve all credit due for their success against Germany, lets not forget, there is a reason for that, and the reason was he was able to turn his back on Japan, and that luxury was due to the efforts of the USA.
With the pounding they were taking from US forces, he was able to ignore Japan until the last weeks of the war, when greed drove him to attack Japan for some last minute spoils when she was already defeated .

**dhunter93** · 06-12-2010, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by bnz. 42 View Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

If your trying to prove a point, I will see you Barbarossa and rais you a Kursk

Battle of Kursk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Don D.** · 06-12-2010, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by John Pen. View Post

but what military guy would want a Fabrege egg hanging on his breast??? But that is JMHO

Jp

Goering.

**Eddie** · 06-12-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Don Doering View Post

Goering.

So true Don,guy liked his bling bling allot.

**bnz. 42** · 06-12-2010, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by Eddie View Post

So true Don,guy liked his bling bling allot.

They all liked a lot their awards, but hey who wouldn't?

**bnz. 42** · 06-12-2010, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by UnknownSoldier View Post

No question that but the Russians fought extremely hard & well, and that their land army ground down the majority of German fighting forces.
Lets not forget though the sole reason why Stalin was able to almost completely strip his eastern front to throw everything that he had in the fight against Hitler - Because the USA and it allies were grappling singlehandedly with the mighty Japanese Empire, and it was obvious Japan would not be able to do anything against Russia while so engaged.

Were it not for that fact, Stalin would not have been able to strip his eastern front of the forces that we so essential in replacing the massive losses he suffered in the opening months of the invasion ,, Or if he did so anyways, would have risked tempting the Japanese into a Japanese strike - Which in fact was the prime nightmare scenario for allied planners.

So while the Soviets deserve all credit due for their success against Germany, lets not forget, there is a reason for that, and the reason was he was able to turn his back on Japan, and that luxury was due to the efforts of the USA.
With the pounding they were taking from US forces, he was able to ignore Japan until the last weeks of the war, when greed drove him to attack Japan for some last minute spoils when she was already defeated .

No doubts about it. It played crucial role especially in the Battle of Moscow in winter 1941.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Moscow

"Although the Wehrmacht's offensive had been stopped, German intelligence estimated that Soviet forces had no more reserves left and thus would be unable to stage a counteroffensive. This estimate proved wrong, as Stalin transferred fresh divisions from Siberia and the Far East, relying on intelligence from his spy, Richard Sorge, which indicated that Japan would not attack the Soviet Union"

**John Pen.** · 06-12-2010, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Don Doering View Post

Goering.

Don,

How I forgot about that Queen, I don't know!

You are so right. A Fabrege egg with some extra embellishments and a ribbon indeed!....one for each outfit.

Good call,
Cheers,
Jp

**blinky** · 06-12-2010, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Capt. R View Post

Hate governments that make people do stupid s**t,trust me no one really liked communism there except for couple maniacs,many people just had to

basically they wore forced

((

Which is why the right to bear arms in the 2nd Amend to US Constitution is so important.....read my quote line by Tom Jefferson. Any Peoples who refuse to resist under such tyranny are only meek sheep and quickly become slaves.

Sounds a lot like......Germany

**John Pen.** · 06-12-2010, 02:57 PM

(though not strictly SS) ....some tasteful TR Military bling, not even pushing the envelope......IMHO

Jp

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**bnz. 42** · 06-12-2010, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by John Pen. View Post

(though not strictly SS) ....some tasteful TR Military bling, not even pushing the envelope......IMHO

Jp

My favorite Third Reich award

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**oldflagswanted** · 06-12-2010, 06:28 PM

Auhtung der blingen ???

Originally posted by John Pen. View Post

(though not strictly SS) ....some tasteful TR Military bling, not even pushing the envelope......IMHO
Jp

Jp:
Auhtung der blingen...
OFW

**Askold** · 06-13-2010, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by bnz. 42 View Post

The one you posted is indeed ugly poor fake so give it to your friend in that green outfit.
And if original below is still ugly to your eyes then you must have a very sofisticated taste..

- Wow the shinier one you posted made all the difference! Not having any taste I would pick this:

over this clown who is trying to wear as much metal as possible:

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Is this Russian source image from AH's bunker perhaps?

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