Of coarse after all the years croney collecting has been defended and many people have been suspended,hand slapped ,ridiculed etc etc. for attempting to discuss this annoying factor of the hobby and suggesting it is a problem...for collectors. This thread focuses on one guys items but there have been other dealers who have been colled out on things but still rank high in the collecting realm despite it....
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Originally posted by tgn View PostI talked with one of the buyers last Sunday. He traded for his example, and says that Kai will be returning the items he traded. Then he said something really annoying: "I wonder if he (Kai) was duped as well?" There you go, a ready made excuse to let him off the hook. Much easier to do this and let life go on than actually confront him on his crooked transaction.
You wait and see, Kai will be back at the SOS next year like nothing happened.
Tom
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looks like they [who exactly] tried to make the perfect fake,,,but probably cheaped out with the maker...
I agree with Rob 100%,,$10, $15k and you'd have the perfect fake.
Originals I believe are not die struck,,but die cast.. These are really simple thing to make compared to something like a state of the art motor piston....
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Originally posted by wags View Post-
Good one Vid !
The Doc. smelled something wrong and walked...been saving Doc's goat for a occasion.
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Be really careful with Strangelove's goat!!. Very protective and you do not want to have an " Occasion " with it.Last edited by Vid; 03-06-2012, 02:49 AM.
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Originally posted by John Pic View PostOf coarse after all the years croney collecting has been defended and many people have been suspended,hand slapped ,ridiculed etc etc. for attempting to discuss this annoying factor of the hobby and suggesting it is a problem...for collectors. This thread focuses on one guys items but there have been other dealers who have been colled out on things but still rank high in the collecting realm despite it....
I find it so sad to see people I respected when I first started out on the internet back in '99/2000 turn into a crook's stool pigeons.
Ian
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Originally posted by SScollector View PostOK, then why can't someone just show us that perfect copy?
I've been waiting a long time to see something like that.
When the day comes that there are bucket fulls of perfect fakes,
then I will resign from this hobby. However, I am not the slightest bit afraid of this because it just can't happen. Even coins that are made with the most highly sophisticated technologies cannot make a perfect coin that looks exactly like another coin of the same type, but from a different die,
even though they are made from the very same master die from a big machine. Talk to some coin experts and they can show you the flaws and differences amongst different dies that are made from the exact same master die. Of course, I agree that they can be very close and very dangerous, but never perfect, IMO.
By the way, the aluminum plated silver one that was posted last is
just covered with mistakes, (whether it was made by man, or by machine),
but does it really matter how they are made exactly?
Chris
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Originally posted by A c h t u n g ! View PostI agree metal items that were made by one maker with one die like coins are impossible to re-create perfectly same. But I wonder how many "nicely"-made fake insignias, uniforms, badges etc reside in collections as original WW2-period made items, only because they don't have obvious "red flags" in their construction.
Go through mine and I am sure you find some.
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Originally posted by kammo man View PostFun and games on this !!!
owen
it sure makes me wonder how many were passed off before the SOS? with the buyers thinking they were special being offered such a rare item perhaps at a good buddy price!
I could not afford to have a horse in this race, but I sure have found this thread to be very informative and think it should be pinned at the top to enlighten any late to the party collectors that may have bought one of these!
Kevin
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