SS Death Head Ring

[Rick B]

Any help on this one would be great. My father just bought it with a group of great stuff and we have never seen one like this. Thanks ,Rick B

[Rick B]

Here are a few of the markings inside. Rick B

[sgstandard]

TK Ring

That's the D.R.G.M "L/11" model.

[JoeW]

Is it on the Cash for Clunkers list? I don't think it will get enough mileage.

[ZiG]

its fantasy

[Seiler]

Absolutely....
Seiler

[Military]

its just total fantasy...

[Rick B]

Well I guess I need to ask. Has this fake been seen before? All I have heard was Fake but no help on why or what to look for. Any help in this area would be great. Thanks,,Rick B

[Gaspare]

At least that's a very early production piece.. That pattern [and like the others say its 100% fantasy] has been around since the 1960s.. Tooling made in England and the rings first sold here in the states.

For mass produced, commercially made for retail rings,,,Concerning fakes generally:

NEVER accept any ring with a RZM mark.
*Nor RZM codes.
*Nor any with the SS motto.
*Nor DRGM. {theoretically possible but so far none with the mark that had a excellent provenance}.
*Nor SS runes in band

[Rick B]

Thank you for the help I appreciate it. Rick B

[Military]

Gaspare is right. no DRGM as far as i know.

[johnnyrocket]

SS Ring

I have one "exactly" like this from the early 50's. the Vet said he got it from a Hitler Youth from the Hitler Youth Division when the war ended. He had said he was in Austria at the time. I don't know why the Hitler youth were in Austria (?). The vet was not a collector, so I guess he was telling the truth...never thought much about it.

Johnny R.

Ps: People say it's a fake...if it is... it's a very good one.
I've been around long enough to know everyone is an expert...Heheheheheh when it come to knowing for sure. On this one I know for sure—I'll just leave it at that folks.

[LandZack2013]

NEVER accept any ring with a RZM mark.
*Nor RZM codes.
*Nor any with the SS motto.
*Nor DRGM. {theoretically possible but so far none with the mark that had a excellent provenance}.
*Nor SS runes in band

This be good ring advice...

[johnnyrocket]

Ring dies?

I remember seeing (sometime back) some dies that they found in Germany after the war that was on "Germania International" sales site... that showed this type SS designed ring was indeed a war time manufactured ring. I'[m not saying it was, just saying that the site had these (images) on talking about German made rings and such.

Johnny R.

OK I found it...here is the link to the information on this SS designed
ring:

http://www.germaniainternational.com/makering.html

[Gaspare]

The 'story' about those exact dies is 100% false..
I've done a few years research on them.....
I know where they were made and when,,and,,who sold them to GI.. Original owner still has the dies for the sister ring of the SS runes in the cartouche..