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    #46
    SS General 2

    Number 2
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      #47
      No 3

      No 3
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        #48
        Now Compare

        Now compare. Just scroll up and down and look.
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          #49
          Here is another with unquestionable provenance. Look at all the "real"cap bands. They lack that cheap prom dress velvet look. I see a trend on these.
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            #50
            47 & 49

            Hey, that's the same hat in 47 ! Otto Hoffman. The first Generals Hat I posted may be Sylvester Staedlers. Thanks for the full frontal of the Hoffmann Visor NTZ, I did not have that Shot.

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              #51
              oops, yes it is the Otto lid. It was a pleasure to get a good look at it I will tell you that.

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                #52
                Ocular Trick

                There is little left to the Top of this "Generals" Visor that it makes the Bird look HUGE !!
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                  #53
                  Hmmmmm...so it may be Dr. Strangelove vs Dr. Frankenstein. Well...hope was in the air for at least one day.

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                    #54
                    Well

                    Actually, Dr. Axel von Strangelove an der Oder vs. Viktor von Frankenstein

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                      #55
                      I think there is no mistaking this Frankenstein cap after looking at a few originals side by side. Great work Dr and NTZ!!!

                      I'd be getting my money back if i were you!!!!

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                        #56
                        Why not ask the guy to post photos of his cap reflecting the same angle of photography as the ones your comparing it to? Looking 'down' on a cap (that's been beat to ****) & comparing it to a nice cap that probably came out of someone's closet at the end of the war - shot from 'below', is no viable comparison. Angles of photography are hugely important in making a statement; just ask Leni Rosenthal.

                        I know it's a waste of time to talk of 'lighting', etc. when comparing photos and making "expert" determinations on velvet. The decision, has clearly been made. That said, I've seen some photos compared, some bland statements, but little more. "Seems to"... seems to be enough to trash this cap. "Great work" everyone.

                        It's a freaking wonder anyone bothers to post on this forum with the level of peer review or supposed 'analysis' offered here.

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                          #57
                          It's a freaking wonder anyone bothers to post on this forum with the level of peer review or supposed 'analysis' offered here
                          If I owned it, I'd follow it up with a hands on from a reputable dealer or visor expert. Opinions are just that. If it is potentially real, it would be worth significant money. The owner could ask Nick or Stonemint to take a look. I would pursue it, and see where it leads.

                          The owner asked for opinions and got them. I see no reason for attitude when opinions are asked. It's all part of the learning process, but on the other hand is an initial determination of originality, not the definitive answer.
                          Last edited by Chris_Werner; 05-19-2009, 05:25 PM.
                          "Activity! Activity! Speed! I greet you."
                          -Napoleon to Massena, advancing on Landshut, April 18, 1809

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                            #58
                            Don’t bother listening to Rick (Phoenixpwb ). The guy knows nothing of caps and contributes nothing. He stands up for every questionable cap since he got burned on his Generals. Always an excuse but no substance. Come on Rick tell us what you see that you like? The cap has never been deemed bad, just questionable. So Rick how many “real” SS generals have you handled for a reference point? My guess is none. Add something constructive regarding the cap or don’t reply. Maybe you can post your generals for us. I will be more than glad to go into in-depth discussion on it. Oh I forgot how was my grammar this time?

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Phoenixpwb View Post
                              Why not ask the guy to post photos of his cap reflecting the same angle of photography as the ones your comparing it to? Looking 'down' on a cap (that's been beat to ****) & comparing it to a nice cap that probably came out of someone's closet at the end of the war - shot from 'below', is no viable comparison. Angles of photography are hugely important in making a statement; just ask Leni Rosenthal.

                              I know it's a waste of time to talk of 'lighting', etc. when comparing photos and making "expert" determinations on velvet. The decision, has clearly been made. That said, I've seen some photos compared, some bland statements, but little more. "Seems to"... seems to be enough to trash this cap. "Great work" everyone.

                              It's a freaking wonder anyone bothers to post on this forum with the level of peer review or supposed 'analysis' offered here.

                              Dude, go buy it and add that "Honey" to your "Collection" NTZ speaks of so highly. My Cat would toss this Hat from her Litter Box. All jokes aside, wherze da pasteboard pics?

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                                #60
                                We got the sweatband up without destroying it .The band is starting to come out so I don't want to mess with it too much. The cap is bent due to the short hat box it's been in for 50 Plus years (it's about 1 in shorter than the top of the peak) It springs back down when you try and push it back up. I guess over time and making it stay in the proper position it would stay.
                                David R.
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