SS TK Collar Tab Question

[TP Alexander]

I know this is good. It's been looked at and OK'd on this forum previously.
What I would like to know is, is this an early VT TK Tab?
The skull seems simpler...i.e., no creases or seams in the skull itself.
Or is it a later tab, or just a manufacturer's variation on the theme??
Thanx,
Tim

[Felix]

I know this is good. It's been looked at and OK'd on this forum previously.
What I would like to know is, is this an early VT TK Tab?
The skull seems simpler...i.e., no creases or seams in the skull itself.
Or is it a later tab, or just a manufacturer's variation on the theme??
Thanx,
Tim

I pressume you mean TV TK tab. From what I know its a mid war piece.

[TP Alexander]

I pressume you mean TV TK tab. From what I know its a mid war piece.

I thought I meant VT as in Verfugungstruppe.
Am I wrong or misunderstanding TV?
Tim

[Felix]

I thought I meant VT as in Verfugungstruppe.
Am I wrong or misunderstanding TV?
Tim

VT (verfugungsTruppe) is LAH, Deutschland, Germania and Der Fuhrer until 1940/41. The skull tabs were used for the TV or TotenkopfVerbände and later on for the Waffen SS Totenkopf (the latter as in the case of the tab you have shown).

[TP Alexander]

Oh!!

Duh!! Stupid me!

TV=TotenkopfVerbände

My brain must have been thinking of sex or something.
Thanx,
Tim

[Felix]

I dont blame you

Women has destroyed many good men

[TP Alexander]

!!

I just know that she has to be SS related subject matter, because of that cut down black tunic that she's wearing!!
She's definitely Nordic!

[ETN]

Your tab is the so-called "pumpkinhead" variation which started showing up in about 1944.

Nice ti.. uh... tab

[240stevek]

Late War issue tab in my opinon.

[Sonny]

ETN could you please help me, why '44 on the pumpkin head, thanks Sonny

[Robin Lumsden]

ETN could you please help me, why '44 on the pumpkin head, thanks Sonny

These tabs never appear in any wartime photos before mid-1944.

Here's a late '44 picture.............

[Felix]

These tabs never appear in any wartime photos before mid-1944.

Here's a late '44 picture.............

I trust your words Robin and you know your skulls. I just had a vague memory of somewhere that these started to come out in mid war, lets say 1943. My memory...

[Sonny]

Hi Robin thanks for the pic. I guess there's a date on the pic, I would have thought that tress and scalloped pocket were earlier. Thanks again Sonny

[Robin Lumsden]

I would have thought that tresse and scalloped pocket were earlier.

Earlier tunics continued to be issued (and repaired and reissued) until the end of the war.

Here's genuine bright tresse being worn by genuine SS men in 1947!

[Robin Lumsden]

Photos are from the Auschwitz trial.