Boxed A-SS visor!

[N.C. Wyeth]

Bob,
Next time you have any Waffen SS headgear for sale, please drop me a line!!! Especially if you are giving them away at below market value prices.

Sepp

If it interests you any, I believe I may recall all three of the WSS caps that Bob mentions he sold - and I have a hunch that I might also have in-turn purchased two of the aforementioned caps from that very same client of Bob's, not much longer after Bob had sold them to him . . .

It may only be a hunch, but I'm pretty sure he had connection to this particular pair that I had obtained, and I know at the time I negotiated the purchase, I did not pay much more than the same amount that he quotes of his historically significant sale prices - it really is quite astonishing how popularity in these things has raised the expectations of most every one that collects . . . it really is!

Brad

[Bob Hritz]

Recently?

Yes,

The DE standard was more than my first house and the camo cap cost more any car I have ever bought.

Unfortunately, I had to sell off a lot of stuff to buy them as my income does not allow such extravagant purchases.

I think that is where many collectors are today; the collection must finance new purchases, so collections do not grow, but just evolve.

Brad, you are correct about the 2 hats. They do have a connection and you will receive the value, should you ever trade or sell them.

Bob hritz

[Bob Hritz]

Bob,
Next time you have any Waffen SS headgear for sale, please drop me a line!!! Especially if you are giving them away at below market value prices.

Sepp

Hello Sepp,

I tried to offer the hats at a fair collector price, less than what a dealer would ask. Now I realize that all I was doing was wholesaling so people could turn a fast profit.

Few of the collectors have ever returned the favor and I seem to be stuck paying the top price or going without.

Bob Hritz

[SSgentleman]

I always dream of some old time collector putting up multiple pieces of ss headgear for sale into the market and just right enough to fufil everyone and make the current price drop a bit Judging at the current pricing level, seriously how many can afford? I have to sell my arms and legs to have one ss visor !!

[N.C. Wyeth]

Unfortunately, I had to sell off a lot of stuff to buy them as my income does not allow such extravagant purchases.

I think that is where many collectors are today; the collection must finance new purchases, so collections do not grow, but just evolve.

Brad, you are correct about the 2 hats. They do have a connection and you will receive the value, should you ever trade or sell them.

Bob hritz

Bob,

I guess we all feel the pain, don't we?

You're not going to like this - I did sell the caps, along with a couple others . . . and at EXACTLY the same price I paid to get them. Now all I have left to show for it is an empty pocketbook, a few odds-and-ends SS insignia, and apparently a "bottom-fish" of an SS dagger still floating belly-up on the E-Stand!

But I'm not complaining - Life is good. I made good use of the cash to FINALLY pay off some hefty medical bills that wouldn't go away - if you think you got it bad when you can't afford to keep adding to your collection, try fending off collectors all night and day for a bout of cancer someone close to you beat over three years ago . . . having only a "bottom-fish" of an SS dagger in the case is really not such a bad thing after all!

Brad

[Koguryo9]

Did people ever figure out why there are more A-SS EM visors and W-SS officer visors than A-SS officer visors and W-SS EM visors?

Someone said somewhere that there are plenty of W-SS officer visors available, where are they? Other than the one on Gerald's site and the other one on Collecting Russia site, I don't see any.

[phild]

Did people ever figure out why there are more A-SS EM visors and W-SS officer visors than A-SS officer visors and W-SS EM visors?

Someone said somewhere that there are plenty of W-SS officer visors available, where are they? Other than the one on Gerald's site and the other one on Collecting Russia site, I don't see any.

My take on the Black SS EM caps being more encoutered than the W-SS NCO cap is that basically every EM/NCO member of the SS pre-39/40 had at least one black visor....and I would suspect that many of the NCOs had 2, or more. Based on what I know of the total numbers of the SS before 1940 there may have been as many as 1/2 M of those caps made.

On the other hand most issue of W-SS EM/NCO visors was strictly to NCO's. Many of those caps can be seen being worn in field/combat conditions and there is no doubt that a much heavier attrition of them occured.

As for officers caps it's a little harder to say. I do not think that the Black officer caps are that much rarer or harder to find than the REAL W-SS ones! I would only guess that the fact that the W-SS officer cap were in current use during the war resulted in more of them being taken by opposing troops and the number found as "leave behinds" were about the same for black and W-SS officer caps.....meaning a combined total of more W-SS caps surviving the war than Black SS caps.

I contrast to some other opinions that I have read in this thread, I do not consider W-SS NCO visors as rarer than W-SS officer visors. Some years it seems like one type is the only kind I can find and then in other years it goes the other way...

[Thälmannpionier]

I think that is where many collectors are today; the collection must finance new purchases, so collections do not grow, but just evolve.


Bob hritz

How I like to say: Its not the Quantity of a Collection..ITS THE QUALITY that counts!

[Pascal Bernhard]

How I like to say: Its not the Quantity of a Collection..ITS THE QUALITY that counts!

Totaly agree!

[Doug Kenwright]

I can't remember when the last time was, when i saw an SS visor cap of any description for sale at a show in Canada.They are scarce on the ground here.

I have only owned two high end pieces of SS in my life.Both of them are still in my family.An A-SS officers visor in excellent original condition to a Dr., and his Waffen-SS overseas cap.Both were given to me as part payment by a dentist in my neighbourhood when i was a kid. I took care of his dogs and house while he was away for a summer.

You would not believe the amount of lowball offers i got from complete strangers (to me..) when i showed them.How about one bigger dealer who told me that his offer of $2000.00 was fair as there was a 'limited market' for these types of items? This was last year!

I know of one A-SS officers right now for under $6,000 and two Nco's for under $4,000 each..they are there to be had, though not at a show, and you better not dicker with the owner.Frankly if you think paying over $10,000 for a cap is a good deal, you are travelling in too small a circle.
If you swim in waters infested with sharks, expect to be bitten by them, that's all..

[DonC]

There's one without insignia right now on the eStand for $3750. It's not mint, but I would hardly call it a complete dog...

Don

[Bob Hritz]

There's one without insignia right now on the eStand for $3750. It's not mint, but I would hardly call it a complete dog...

Don

By the tim you find a matching, in condition and finish, set of proper SS hat insignia, the hat is back at full retail.

Bob Hritz

[DonC]

By the tim you find a matching, in condition and finish, set of proper SS hat insignia, the hat is back at full retail.

Bob Hritz

And that, my friends, is why I loooove the Heer!

Don

[heinrich66]

Here's the pendant of a rare army box, the cap even has the eagle imprint on it

[Pascal Bernhard]

It seeams it's to be sold again...
http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/088h4.html

seems the buyer changed his mind...