SS pith helmet's decals (original or fakes)

[Hans1940h]

Hello,

I have got a problem with recognize this item. Are the decals original or not? I haven't got better photos but seller have to send me some better images. What do you think about it?

[Peppe864]

I´m no expert but these doesn´t look so good..............

[NickG]

Shields are way too fat (TOO WIDE!!!)
Compare:

[NickG]

other side

0ther side of mine... = NARROWER!

[Massimo F.]

My loose set for comparison

[PMan]

Your Set

My loose set for comparison

I am not sure I like the set you posted. They appear to be casted copies IMHO.
Peter

[PMan]

Your shields

0ther side of mine... = NARROWER!

Nick, what is the base metal of your shields? Not brass I hope.
Peter

[Massimo F.]

I am not sure I like the set you posted. They appear to be casted copies IMHO.
Peter

I've got them 10 yrs ago off a pith helmet wich was in very poor conditions (water damage). Honestly I cannot be 100% sure of the provenience if they were original to that helmet.
If anyone has an original unmounted set to compare, it would be great. thanks Peter for your opinion.

[Dennis S]

I don't want to even try to tke mine off my pith, but here is a good one that I gleened off e-stand posted by a member. I hope he does not mind.

[Dennis S]

Back

[Dennis S]

Here is a decent thread on Waffen SS pith helms with some good shots of zinc originals

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=ss+pith start on page #1

[NickG]

Nick, what is the base metal of your shields? Not brass I hope.
Peter

no not brass! I know those you need to avoid! The other ones with measurements look indeed like crude cast copies...Sorry!

[PMan]

Shields

Here is an original pair unmounted in my collection.
Peter

[Dennis S]

Here is my eyewitness account on the fake aluminum shields from another earlier thread.

"The pith helmet of course is good and I can assume you question the shields. I can not answer from your photos , but I can tell you this . Back in the 70's a notorious dealer from New Jersey( yes the same one I mentioned in a previous thread that made up the batches of Italian SS sleave eagles) asked to borrow an original set of shields from another dealer who was also a SS collector. The SS collector had two original sets one matching JFS42 and another JFS43. The SS dealer/collector loaned him one JFS42 and one JFS43 so the dealer could only make molds/Dies for mismatched sets and this is what he did. I inspected the fakes after they were made(presented to me as originals) and the fakes were cast from aluminum , but were quite well done . Yes they were a JFS42 and JFS43 I can't remember which though. I believe all originals are zinc" .

If I remember correctly brass pins on the aluminum fakes also

[Dennis S]

Here is my pith with JFS Zinc shields