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    Hello,

    I have got a problem with recognize this item. Are the decals original or not? I haven't got better photos but seller have to send me some better images. What do you think about it?





    Last edited by Hans1940h; 05-12-2008, 12:19 PM. Reason: I could't load the photos

    #2
    I´m no expert but these doesn´t look so good..............

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      #3
      Shields are way too fat (TOO WIDE!!!)
      Compare:
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      Last edited by NickG; 05-12-2008, 04:01 PM.

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        #4
        other side

        0ther side of mine... = NARROWER!
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        Last edited by NickG; 05-12-2008, 04:07 PM.

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          #5
          My loose set for comparison
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            #6
            Your Set

            Originally posted by Krieg777 View Post
            My loose set for comparison
            I am not sure I like the set you posted. They appear to be casted copies IMHO.
            Peter

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              #7
              Your shields

              Originally posted by NickG View Post
              0ther side of mine... = NARROWER!
              Nick, what is the base metal of your shields? Not brass I hope.
              Peter

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                #8
                Originally posted by Peter Manzie View Post
                I am not sure I like the set you posted. They appear to be casted copies IMHO.
                Peter
                I've got them 10 yrs ago off a pith helmet wich was in very poor conditions (water damage). Honestly I cannot be 100% sure of the provenience if they were original to that helmet.
                If anyone has an original unmounted set to compare, it would be great. thanks Peter for your opinion.

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                  #9
                  I don't want to even try to tke mine off my pith, but here is a good one that I gleened off e-stand posted by a member. I hope he does not mind.
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                    #10
                    Back
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                      #11
                      Here is a decent thread on Waffen SS pith helms with some good shots of zinc originals

                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...hlight=ss+pith start on page #1

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Peter Manzie View Post
                        Nick, what is the base metal of your shields? Not brass I hope.
                        Peter
                        no not brass! I know those you need to avoid! The other ones with measurements look indeed like crude cast copies...Sorry!
                        Last edited by NickG; 05-12-2008, 09:43 PM.

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                          #13
                          Shields

                          Here is an original pair unmounted in my collection.
                          Peter
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                            #14
                            Here is my eyewitness account on the fake aluminum shields from another earlier thread.

                            "The pith helmet of course is good and I can assume you question the shields. I can not answer from your photos , but I can tell you this . Back in the 70's a notorious dealer from New Jersey( yes the same one I mentioned in a previous thread that made up the batches of Italian SS sleave eagles) asked to borrow an original set of shields from another dealer who was also a SS collector. The SS collector had two original sets one matching JFS42 and another JFS43. The SS dealer/collector loaned him one JFS42 and one JFS43 so the dealer could only make molds/Dies for mismatched sets and this is what he did. I inspected the fakes after they were made(presented to me as originals) and the fakes were cast from aluminum , but were quite well done . Yes they were a JFS42 and JFS43 I can't remember which though. I believe all originals are zinc" .

                            If I remember correctly brass pins on the aluminum fakes also

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                              #15
                              Here is my pith with JFS Zinc shields
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