ss skull fur kragenspiegel?

[Simson]

Hello

Sorry but my english is not best

I bought this skull (fur ein kragenspiegel) last week as original but I wanted him here to test for authenticity

The only question is this skull original?

I thank you for your opinion

Greetings from the Netherlands

[Ian Hulley]

This is a 1st pattern CAP skull and not a collar tab skull ..... the SS never (officially) wore metal skulls there.

It appears to be original and from the recent 'Berlin Haul' but Robin will be able to tell definitively.

Ian.

[markie]

interesting skull, does not look the same as the skulls from the berlin haul imo, what size is it please? regards, mark.

[RaymondG]

Hi

It certainly does not look like one from the 'Berlin Skull Haul'

I am not sure if it is my internet connection, but it takes an age to load an image (I managed half a skull) so I just gave up. Sorry about that, but I did try

Raymond

[Robin Lumsden]

This type of skull was worn on the collar (beside the litzen) by Kav. Rgt. 5
during the early 1930s.

It also appears on panzer collar patches in some period pix.

It's the same size as a standard panzer collar skull.

Not for the cap.

Not SS.

Not Berlin find.

[Robin Lumsden]

Here's the same type, to show size comparisons..............

[Simson]

I thank you for your opinions

Thanks very much for the information about this skull
So if I understand correctly, this skull is original 1930?
not from the ss that is clear for me now

Here some more pictures of the skull













regards from the Netherlands

[PMan]

Eagle

Here's the same type, to show size comparisons..............

Hello Robin,
May I ask to see the eagle. Is that an early soft cap eagle?

Regards, Peter

[PMan]

Eagle

1

[Robin Lumsden]

So if I understand correctly, this skull is original 1930?

Yes...........1930s army cavalry/panzer.

[Robin Lumsden]

Hello Robin,
May I ask to see the eagle. Is that an early soft cap eagle?

Regards, Peter

Here you go, Peter.
It's an SS-VT sidecap eagle from c. 1935.

[PMan]

Eagle

Super! Thanks Robin

[Robin Lumsden]

No problem. I got it from Malcolm Bowers about 30 years ago and I've never seen another one since.

[PMan]

VT Cap Eagle

No problem. I got it from Malcolm Bowers about 30 years ago and I've never seen another one since.

Another version

[inimicus]

only see these tiny eagles in period pix. dumbfoundingly rare - thanks!