italien ss jacket

[hayleyp]

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any one got any pants or caps made out of this material,i would like to see them,will

[Petr]

I've always loved the 4 pockets made from Italian camo. Heres my example. Theres no story with it.I picked it up from another collector in Germany.He got it from a flea market. I don't collect SS so I put Army insignia on it. These tunics were also popular with the Army. Pic 1

Very nice jacket exept hen´s place..
Best Petr.

[djpool]

Very nice jacket exept hen´s place..
Best Petr.

Hi Petr,

Thank you. Just what is a "hen's place" .WR Jim

[Petr]

Hi Petr,

Thank you. Just what is a "hen's place" .WR Jim

Jim,
someone calls this bird an eagle I call it a hen..

[djpool]

Jim,
someone calls this bird an eagle I call it a hen..

Petr,

Got it . Jim

[mkb42h]

waterfast dyes were not invented before '45. i.e. if it rained on your tunic even once, the colors would run. it amazing any of them have survived.

[hayleyp]

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waterfast dyes were not invented before '45. i.e. if it rained on your tunic even once, the colors would run. it amazing any of them have survived.

INTERESTING FACT,THANKS WILL

[djpool]

waterfast dyes were not invented before '45. i.e. if it rained on your tunic even once, the colors would run. it amazing any of them have survived.

As a generalized statement that is incorrect. Color fast or fast dyes trace back to medieval days. How color fast a certain dye was depended on many factors- what the dye was made from, the materials being dyed, the color of the dye, how the dye was applied etc. Heres just a short history on dye making prior to the war. Of course the German firm of IG Farben was the leader in dye production and research in the inter war years.

Post(WWI)-war Innovations and Anxieties
Dyes for synthetic fibers. Disperse and phthalocyanine dyes.

The 1920s saw several technical innovations, mainly in the areas of increased color fastness and dyestuffs for synthetic fibers. In that
year chemists at Scottish Dyes discovered the first bright green vat dye, called Caledon Jade Green, which was popular for the next fifty
years. With the introduction of cellulose acetate on a large scale immediately after the war, dye chemists had to adopt completely new
approaches. (Cellulose acetate was also known as acetate silk, one of the forms of artificial silk, and was called Celanese in Britain,
and Lustron in the United States; the term "Rayon" was introduced in 1924). Previously, dyeing had been carried out in aqueous media
and fibers from natural materials (cotton, silk, wool and linen) absorbed the dye. Ionic groupings polarized the dye molecules and this
favored solubility. However, these groupings resisted attachment to cellulose acetate, which did not absorb water.

Disperse dyes provided an answer to the awesome challenge presented by novel textile materials, and were associated with
discoveries in Britain. They were applied as a dispersion of particles in water and relied on new advances in theoretical chemistry.
Arthur Green and William Perkin junior (son of the discoverer of mauve), had undertaken research on these and other new dyes for
British Alizarine, Levinstein, and Morton.

The results were products that held fast on synthetic fibers, notably the ionomines, discovered by Green and K.H. Saunders in the
laboratory of BDC in 1922, and that were applied to cellulose acetate. Once attached to the fiber they were diazotized and developed in a
manner similar to Green's primuline. They offered possibilities for new yellow, orange, red, maroon, purple, black and blue shades.

These were rapidly followed by a range of insoluble azo dyes and novel anthraquinone colorants that would become known as "acetate"
dyes. The Ionamines showed that water-soluble dyes for acetate were possible, but ICI had little success with this research, which was
also taken up in Germany. The first experiments were also conducted on what were later known as fiber reactive dyes However, they
were not fully understood, or exploited, until the 1950s. Progress was invariably hindered by misconceptions.51 Direct dyes for viscose
rayon also appeared in the 1920s, and were copied by Swiss and German manufacturers.

The vast range of dyes called for a new system of classification. Previously this was based on the Farbstofftabellen (Tabellarische
Ubersicht der Kunstlichen Organischen Farbstoffe) of G. Schultz and P. Julius, first published in 1888 on the occasion of A.W.
Hermann's seventieth birthday. By 1914, five editions had appeared. They contained details of some 1,000 dyestuffs that were known by
10,000 trade names! This was a most unsatisfactory situation, and since an English language guide was in demand the British Society
of Dyers and Colourists undertook the task of indexing dyestuffs.

[Admiraal]

any one got any pants or caps made out of this material,i would like to see them,will

Yea i got a field-made backpack in Italian camo.
Its about as big as a normal issued rucksack, typical german style rucksack.
Funny thing is that it even has a lining of very thin fabric, its damaged on the inside.







German hook used.


This looks like a german late war belt?


On the inside the lining is a bit damaged, i can see some non-faded camo cloth.