Tunic buttons with SS Runes in a diamond.........

[BadBob]

....and TWO numbers following the "M5". Like these sold by Detlev recently......Are they good?

[Arran]

No, these are copies...sorry...

[John Pic]

They are considered copies since none have ever surfaced attached to tunics that were not post war. They have been around however since before I started collecting in 1974,because I used to see cards of them for sale.It would be interesting to know exactly when they were made.

[BadBob]

Thanks to both of you. Good to "see" you, John..................(1000th post)

[Gaspare]

I've been seeing them too since the 70s.. even have a few laying around somewhere,,given to me as repros..

BB, Were they sold as originals or reproductions?? , G.

[Adrian Stevenson]

I have always thought that these buttons were attributed to English fake maker Tony Oliver? He made the fake SS belt buckles with the same SS in a diamond proof mark. If I see him this year, I will ask him, but I don't know if he will tell me or not.

Cheers, Ade.

[Arran]

Adrian- try a tube sock full of wood screws; it can work wonders as a 'tongue loosener'!

Cheers,
Arran.

[BadBob]

G. - They were sold as originals for $180. Adrian - Oliver's belt buckle is what I associate most with the SS Runes in a diamond marking, but I've read anything with it is no good. I thought it was a faker's twist on the olc in a diamond marking found on dagger clips.

[Gaspare]

well they were known as fake years ago and they're fakes now, unless one of the advanced collectors comes by and say 'hey yeah they're good I have them on my tunics ' someone is going to get a $180 refund.