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    Early SS Skull + eagle, do they have a chance ?

    Hi all,

    a friend of me just visited me with this pair of SS insignia. He wanted to hear what I think about them. Well, I have strong doubts about the originality of them, but I dont want to tell him something wrong.

    So I wanted to ask the experts on these.

    What is your opinion about this set ?

    Many thanks, Jens
    Last edited by zbv500; 05-02-2007, 10:25 AM.
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        look at the head area and the right feed, looks like the metal was stamped crooked.
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          back
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            the back is unmarked
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              #7
              The skull's original, but it isn't SS. It's army cavalry. The form is very distinctive.

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                Originally posted by Robin Lumsden View Post
                The skull's original...
                ...and the eagle is most certainly not.

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                  Thanks Robert and Brad

                  So I will pass on the eagle and take only the skull.

                  They are supposed to be found together and the guy who has them is not a military buff at all. He said he got them from one household.

                  So is the eagle bad for sure ? I dont want to make a mistake and breack up a grouping.

                  Many thanks,

                  Jens

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                    Originally posted by zbv500 View Post
                    They are supposed to be found together and the guy who has them is not a military buff at all. He said he got them from one household.

                    So is the eagle bad for sure ? I dont want to make a mistake and breack up a grouping.
                    Unless it is some never-before-seen super rare early/prototype second pattern eagle, I would say it is safe to conclude that it is a fake.

                    Also, considering the skull is a first pattern skull, which was replaced by the second pattern skull starting in 1934, and the eagle is a second pattern eagle, which was introduced in 1936, finding the two together on the same cap would be very unusual.

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                      Ok Brad, thanks for your help. I think I will only take the skull now.

                      Thanks for taking the time.

                      Jens

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                        Jens.

                        Here are some of these skulls as they were dug up a few years ago by workmen in Germany......

                        The photo is courtesy of another forum member.
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                          There were hundreds of them found.......
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                            ...the 2 types are clear here.....
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                              The one you show has been cleaned. Here is one before cleaning. It looks like zinc but it is actually silvered brass.
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