SS Sleeve General Officer sleeve rankings....Good or not.

[PaulR]

Good evening.

A member stated that the General Officer's sleeve rank I currently have for sale on the Estand could have some issues. I am looking to hear your opinions on the matter.

Thank you again for your time and expertice.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=205441

Kind regards

Paul

[Gary Wood]

Paul,
here is a thread with items of that type shown
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=200886

[Gary Wood]

your items

[Gary Wood]

back

[Gary Wood]

just to make it easier to compare the pictures from the thread above

[Gary Wood]

the backs

[PaulR]

All input is valuable here. Could this be a varient or is an all out fake?

Regards
Paul

[ethreecee]

Obertsgruppenfuhrer sleeve

This one is also nice....

[ethreecee]

sorry color error

Sorry,
color error

[Aave Johns]

How do you determine what is Waffen-SS or Wehrmacht in origin? They both used the same sleeve badges and wouldn't the "lions share" have gone to the Heer as there was more of them?

Regards;

Johnsy

[Gary Wood]

Paul,
sorry to say I do not like your example of the general rank insignia, as you can see from the other example I posted the bars are woven then sewn on to the backing cloth, this is how I would expect to see it constructed on insignia of this type, even the lower officers examples of this type are constructed in this way.

On your example the bars are like the oakleaves machine embroidered, they have even mimicked the line of stitching on the front that would have held them on if they were woven, also there is traces of the modern white paper backing on the back that the emblems have been embroidered through, so in my book they get a thumbs down , sorry
cheers
Gary

[Gary Wood]

How do you determine what is Waffen-SS or Wehrmacht in origin? They both used the same sleeve badges and wouldn't the "lions share" have gone to the Heer as there was more of them?

Regards;

Johnsy

Johnsy,
yes, the heer and w-ss used the same type of camo rank insignia, there is of course one rank that could only be SS that of oberfuhrer as there is no equivalent army rank,

I have never looked for images of HEER troops wearing this insignia, do any members have any to share?
cheers
gary

[Gary Wood]

just to illustrate my points above first the false stitch on the front

[Gary Wood]

traces of the paper on the back

[Gary Wood]

again showing traces of the paper