Italian Waffen-SS Tunic

[LUCKYFEZ]

Troops,

Does anyone here know the value of, or have photos of a 100% untouched Italian Waffen-SS tunic? I am interested in possibly purchasing one from a collector in Italy. Once I recieve photos I will certainly post them for opinions before purchase. Any assistance is appreciated.

Dan

[viva_giulio]

good luck... it's a super rare item.

price? The price asked... in Italy it's a item have the price the seller want.

[LUCKYFEZ]

Of course I understand the subjective question on value. I was refering to established prices of similar items sold, to help in pricing this tunic. I appreciate the info, but I am looking for specifics.

Dan

[Josef Hahne]

Dan,
Now Italian camouflage is something I know quite a bit about!! While I can't help you with pricing on such a Tarnjacke, I would love the chance to be able to help out with the material it is made from. Please ask for revese shots of the material and a few close ups of both the camo and non camo side would be very helpfulin pacing a date on the fabric.
I have been told there is a vendor in Europe making high end garments out of Italian camo he has reproduced. I will get to handle one of these garments in January but I have seen pictures and it is pretty scarey stuff. Be carefull!

Sepp

[LUCKYFEZ]

Sepp,

Thank you very much for the reply. Unfortunatley the tunic is not camoflauge, it is made from Italian Wool. The info I have right now is scarce, but here is my understanding:

Patterned after an M43 tunic, made in Italian wool material. Has the Italian Eagle/ Fasces with red felt/ wool background. Has belt hooks still present, and an Italian arm shield on the left sleeve. No collar insignia, nor any evidence there was any present. The history on the item is vague, only that it was recovered in an Italian storage unit, discovered in 1984. There are some news articles that supposedly detail this find.

I do not have photos yet, I was contacted by this person 2 days ago via email. As yet no photos. I was trying to establish a value on this type of tunic. In all my research I have not been able to find any sale figures for proven Italian SS tunics of this type.

Thanks for the help, any info/ warnings welcome.

Dan

[Josef Hahne]

Dan,
Sorry, I re read your post and I just assumed you meant Italian camo.
I won't be any use to you since it's Italian wool.

Sepp

[LUCKYFEZ]

Sepp,

Thanks none the less, this seems to be an area of collecting that most people here are not too interested in. Oh well.

Dan

[Dennis S]

Lucky Fez. I have a significant interest in Italian SS items. As far as
anyone being able to recognize an untouched example. I would find this near impossible. You can only hope to determine if the insignia is real
and matches the wear and overall patina of the whole tunic. Since there are no or little benchmarks and text book examples to go by so to speak.
Without any Historical Information, it will be determined by a gut feeling so to speak. I am not saying that one with a real feel for tunics and and insignia couldn't make an educated determination.
I believe A real key to this tunic will be in the shoulder boards .

[Glenn McInnes]

Italian wool



Glenn

[John-M]

WSS Tunic in italian cloth

Here is my M43. These are tough to repro accurately. This example can be traced to a depot in Hamburg. It was a vet bring back in 1945 and traded off by the Canadian war museam in the 70's. Should mention the M43 pants are also italian material (reitz marked - a know producer of SS cloth items).

[Glenn McInnes]

Very nice John




Glenn

[John-M]

Hey Glenn

Thx Glenn!

Here is another photo I happen to have available on file of two tunics in the collection. Sorry for all the equipment. Depending on the unit and insignia, the market price can range to $4000 to $7000 US...

[Glenn McInnes]

Great stuff John, I have heard about the Canadian War Museum SS tunic that you have but I don't think I ever saw it. Thanks for posting it.



Glenn

[Doug Kenwright]

What is the most identifiable, distinguishing feature of Italian wool for these tunics? is it fairly coarse?

Could anyone take a closeup of the wool weave?

thanks
Doug

[Glenn McInnes]

What is the most identifiable, distinguishing feature of Italian wool for these tunics? is it fairly coarse?

Could anyone take a closeup of the wool weave?

thanks
Doug

For me it is the color of the wool. An almost steel blue color and very rough like steel wool.Must have been a bitch to wear.



Glenn