Your opinion on these SS Insignia

[John Pic]

I like the cyphers,however I think the boards are thrown together,perhaps real but have things added to them.The Runic Hpstf collar tab strikes me has a recent high end fake from the same genre as the Sieder eagles of Vienna. But I believe the DF cyphers are good ones.

[Gary Wood]

Sorry to be negative I do not like any of the items here, the df straps while i think! the cyphers maybe OK i do not like the straps or the fact they have the number 4 on them, the top cords are made from the bright aluminium, they appear used on the top yet show no wear where the button would impress also as one end would be sewn into the shoulder you would expect this area to be brighter it is not, the white cord that holds the Russia braid together looks the dirtiest part of the straps and this would be hidden in the shoulder,the black backing cloth is not the norm and appears in much better condition that the rest of the straps, both the cyphers and numbers have hidden pins *, these look to me like reconstructed straps from other parts

The LAH straps, again bright litzen and it appears to be the same type of black backing cloth, the label does not belong on this strap and it is machine sewn to the base of one of them so that says it all for me.

3rd pair do not like those either do the pins go though these?

the nco's pair same again the pips and letter "E" are probably OK but i do not like the straps

SS-Hauptscharführer tabs out right fakes, i do not like the runic officers pair or the tk pair. sorry that is my take on them

cheers
Gary
* hidden pins you can find on original straps so its not just this i have taken into account

[Bobwirtz]

And with Gary's report I think we have the LAST WORD on these, as far as I'm concerned...

Bob

[Donald Abenheim]

And with Gary's report I think we have the LAST WORD on these, as far as I'm concerned...

Bob

I agree totally. The Sieder stamp is very odd. The runic embroidery for Pioniere is odd; the Totenkopf patches are ghastly. Sieder made authentic material in its day; then it made fakes into the 1970s. I think this stamp of Sieder is taken from one of the paper stamps on the Aermelhoheitszeichen. Other sets of eyes here are a lot more expert than mine at this sort of regalia, also, and they should intervene here. Does one see this bevo VA/RZM SS tag in authentic Verfuegungstruppe insignia with Waffenfarbe?

[John Pic]

Never have seen that Donald not ever in 30 years. I also dont trust officer boards with bright tops although period examples of heer boards like this are found I havent encountered any Waffen SS. My assumption is early perhaps mid 80s fakes using some original materials combined with fake.

[Donald Abenheim]

janz richtig!

Never have seen that Donald not ever in 30 years. I also dont trust officer boards with bright tops although period examples of heer boards like this are found I havent encountered any Waffen SS. My assumption is early perhaps mid 80s fakes using some original materials combined with fake.

I am sure you are right.

[Robert H]

Just read this thread, and I follow the last view posts about it like Bob,John, Gary & Donald stated already.

[Klaus O.]

Thank you all!

I just realize that collecting SS insignia it's like walking in mine field!

It was too good to be true... well, at least I learned something.

Ciao,

Claudio

[Gary Wood]

Thank you all!

I just realize that collecting SS insignia it's like walking in mine field!

It was too good to be true... well, at least I learned something.

Ciao,

Claudio

Claudio,
I think all fields now are a mind field not just the ss field

cheers
gary