Bevo Eagle on piece of cloth... Not to keen on this one..

[willysproject]

Hi,

What do you guys think about this piece? The eagle is machine sewn, the rank patch is hand sewn... At first sight the insignia seem very 'yellowed' by exposion to the elements, but IMO, this one is a tropical Bevo eagle ...

Kind regards,
Gerd

[Felix]

Eagle is original but most likely not original sewn to the piece of cloth. This fact has been discussed in depth before.

I would not purchase as an original cut off with insignia. Its post war sewn on in my opinion

We have seen this before on some dubious dealer sites.

Im sorry,

Felix

[Bill H.]

I don't have a problem with the fact the insignia isn't all factory sewn. Cheverons were always being changed out as guys got promoted.

I'm no expert on SS eagles so I can't speak to that but a machine sewn eagle and hand sewn cheveron makes sense to me. The cheveron looks fine and nothing about the eagle I see sends up a flare.

Cheers, Bill Huber

[Gary Cain]

This looks exactly like the sort of stuff a known CA based faker is producing. It is all over the place in antique malls etc.

Gary

I don't have a problem with the fact the insignia isn't all factory sewn. Cheverons were always being changed out as guys got promoted.

I'm no expert on SS eagles so I can't speak to that but a machine sewn eagle and hand sewn cheveron makes sense to me. The cheveron looks fine and nothing about the eagle I see sends up a flare.

Cheers, Bill Huber

[John T]

I think this same set was discussed a few times before.

[Gary Wood]

This has been discussed many times before, this combination (tropical eagle sewn to field grey cloth) is a modern thing, and these are somewhat common now
and I have said it before and say it again here this trait seems to have surfaced because the European style of eagle has become much harder to find and thus command a much higher price.

Could this happen period maybe on rare occasions as its an oddity rather than a common practice.

For a faker it would not be hard to mimic the correct method of stitching on a small flat piece of cloth, hell some manage to do it on sleeves of tunics!

It has also been argued in the past of period shots of tropical eagles being worn on field grey uniform, i am afraid you cannot tell from a black and white photo as this photo below shows one of the eagles is a tropical example all have been photographed at the same time same light conditions ect ect
cheers
Gary

[willysproject]

Thanks for the help everybody!

This one goes back to the seller!

Kind regards,
Gerd V

[Gary Wood]

i did not have time last night to post the companion photo to the one above, so here it is

[stgeorge64]

Originals Do Exist........

Although stitching original Waffen-SS insignia to pieces of uniform cloth to obviously increase the overall value has attracted the attention of the plethora of unsrcupulous dealers that permeate this hobby, (lets face it, even the humble west wall medal and packet has received the attention of fakers) it should not be forgotten that original pieces do exist with the original insignia still attached to the section of uniform, and being in position since the war. The bottom line is that each piece has to be judged upon it's own merits, as for my own humble opinion, I would myself steer clear of the piece which started as the subject of this thread.

Regards Richard.